Happy Memorial Day! I just wanted to let you know that….you’re a genus! It’s like a completely different motorcycle now. I’m really enjoying it.
I will email to set another appointment once I get the service completed. Thank you again! Stay safe.
Been to track today, bike feels very good. Handling is great.
Wear is super good, attached some photos of the rear & the front (track is 8 right turns 1 u-turn left)
Thank you a lot! the day was perfect mainly because of your setup that fixed my bike behavior.
Maaan, I just took the 6 out for a test on the new K-Tech rear and I felt it was bouncy in the rear but overall the bike felt pretty good.
I stopped at my usual gas station for some Boudin and was inspecting the tires. I noticed the leading edge of the rear was building up a bit of a ridge (as I was watching the rebound video in the classroom section). Hot damn my assumption was confirmed! Put in a little bit or rebound and will test again shortly.
I was then watching the compression wear video and my rear looks pretty damn good as far as smooth wear line so I've left it alone for now.
The front was smooth on wear save for a couple spots where you could easily see the waves so I've taken out 1 turn of compression in each leg. The edges of the tread looked great though.
I cant thank you enough for putting out your videos to teach people how to suspension tune. I really want to be that good in the future too.
I can't stop watching Your's video's. I'm under huge impression of your's knowledge.
My bike is 1999 Honda CB 750 and it's not a sport bike, but I have first day on track. I don't have much to set up. Just preload on the back.
But thanks to your video's I have much more understanding how motorcycles suspension works.
Greetings from Poland.
I've been following you for the last couple years and have learned a lot from you. Thank you for putting your knowledge out there for all of us and your for your time and keep doing what you are do. You are a blessing to the riding community!
My Father passed away two years ago due to illness but I have to say you played a huge part in me getting over his passing.
I had a trip all booked (called the Southern Tour with the Playdays/Moto TT boys) to visit the four South Island tracks on my then new Street Triple RS. It was only a month prior to that trip that I lost Dad and I had thought about cancelling the trip since I'd never ridden down to the South Island and was still dealing with the grief.
I have to say that attending Shiny Side Up (Kapiti) in 2018 and getting your help to get my bike setup eased my fears and I can report I had one of the best trips of my life-time, the bike performed amazingly on the road and also at the various tracks I visited (believe it or not I was passing locals who knew Ruapuna better than me). I also got to visit the graves of some of my ancestors down in Akaroa which really helped navigate the heavily loss I was dealing with.
Anyway I just want to say a huge thank you for everything you have done for the motorcycling community. I am amazed about how much information you have put out there which is freely available and totally invaluable to the average motorcyclist who is so often oblivious to the safety aspect of riding.
Hope you have a fantastic birthday and thanks so much for all your help. I'm a fan for life!!
Kind regards from NZ 🙂
Have been a casual biker rider since I was 7 years old and presently am nearing 50 (Oh my god I am old) most recently I have changed my bike after 5 years from a Harley street 750 to a tiger 800 keeping in mind that I would like to do more of long distance touring and some off road as well.
Keeping in mind my intentions I started seeing some online videos and stumbled upon one of your videos and after seeing that I was so impressed that I just couldn't help but write to you.
I must say that your knowledge about the ergonomics of a bike and it's rider is just phenomenal and your though process is absolutely clear, your observation is minuet and precise and the advise is simply priceless.
Yours is the first channel that I have subscribed. Please keep up the good work and God Bless You.
Take care and I will keep seeing your videos
Hi Dave Moss,
First and foremost I want to thank you for everything you are doing. I used to do some road racing with motard pitbikes some years ago. Although I was pretty successful and have 2 national championships under my belt.
Some issues and other interests however got me to shy away from all the racing and soon after I didn't care about it anymore.
I recently found the videos you are doing and got interested again as you explained aspects of suspension and tyres in a way I understood and that i simply could not grasp before. Now I have got myself 2 bikes, each for different classes. I am about to dive myself into racing again.
You have brought back my inspiration and motivation with an enhanced vision of what and how I need to proceed to advance into my next personal level!
Just thought I’d give you an update following a 60+ mile street ride today on each of my Triumphs.
The Street Triple RS - feels different, I’m not keen enough to point it out but I have to ride it a little differently, it does feel balanced but I think I’d ridden it so long with the previous settings and it was different enough that I had become accustomed to it. I feel like it favors less aggressive inputs now, if that’s a thing.
The D765 - I wish I would have checked in with you on that when I was still in the break-in stage, it feels comparatively plush now! Super planted, I feel like I can comfortably adjust my lines mid-corner without upsetting it, so nice! I was on one of my nearby roads that I probably run a little faster than I should b/c I’m so familiar with it and there was a deer on the side of the road. I was already trail braking but I just swept out a bit to steer clear and no fuss, no drama, no instability, just super adjustable with no problem.
Thanks again, Dave, great work as always!
I hope you are staying safe during the covid Pandemic.
They have just eased the lock down in the UK. I have just managed to drive the bike since you sent me the suggested settings.
The bike is miles better than stock, I am really impressed.
I rode it for about fifty miles on a and b roads which is the majority of my riding and deliberately chose some pretty awful road surfaces.
Finally got around to changing my settings and went for a really slow, short ride to town. The first setting you gave me is what i applied. Oh my goodness, Such a different feel. The front end is sooo much stiffer it also isn't as " nervous " and feels GREAT ! It feels as though it wants to hold a line better, it also requires a little more energy to initiate turning.
Where as before a feather light touch would be drastic. I am eager to ride once I get my new Dunlop q3 + installed ! Rear tire is actually starting to show cords.
Also the rear end seems to function much better, not as jarring or abrupt ?
Old settings were 2 clicks out in the back for rebound and actually didn't count compression. I have sag, might be on the lower mm threshold however it is there, Front settings were 14 clicks out compression, 8 clicks out rebound.
Thanks again Sir!
Another happy customer,
Hope all is well with you and your family in this time of world havoc.
During lock down I have taken time to prepare my bike, hence I need your help. I finally changed the rear shock spring of my ZX10R 2015. The spring rate now is 120 Nm.
The bike feels like another bike, incredible, it pulls into the tuns tight, no more wide and unstable turns. What an upgrade, I understand now, really enormous difference.
The track is going to be opening soon though over here, so I'd need your help to tune the correct settings for the new spring (compression, rebound, etc). As by your advice, I installed the spring 12mm shorter than the original length. As it is now the static sag is 5.5mm and the sag with rider in full kit on is 30mm. I weight 104kg in full kit.
Let me know what else I need to do please.
I love your stuff. With the free stuff on YouTube I transformed my bike so I had to sign up for the rest. I got it and it was set up super wack. I love suspension and grip in cars which I race, so naturally it translated over to bikes. I can care less about power and speed, its all about grip and suspension feel for me.
I just did this conversion so that's why I know. In your "2 Clicks Out: Ducati Monster Suspension Setup" at the 21 min mark, you have a black s2r 2005 (same as my bike) which comes with non adjustable forks. Who ever she got the bike from did the conversion I just did and they added Ducati 996 forks. You went to do the compression on the bottom but there was no hole thru the axle. The forks still had compression but who ever did the conversion did not get the 996 axle with the holes drilled (I just ran into this issues trying to adjust my compression). So there is a compression adjuster on the bottom but she still had the regular S2r monster axle.
I love the videos man, there is so much to learn and I'm really making use of all the information you provide. I even swapped the oil on my 996 forks before I put them in.
I want to thank you as after watching your videos I was able to get my suspension set as you describe in your videos.
I have a Triumph Rocket touring that I ride and drag race with Race Tech gold emulators and 1.1kg springs up front and Ikon shocks rear,
I'm close to being oversprung but because of you I've been able to get proper sag, rebound, compression low and high speed set real nice where I think you'd have put it yourself.
Thanks Dave and if you shoot me an email I would love to buy you a beer. Cheers mate and you're a real blessing. Or I will contribute to Patreon if you have that. I haven't seen that on any of your videos though.
I spent the first 2 sessions getting a good basic setting on rebound and compression. And I could definitely tell the bike felt more and more stable - I could easily tighten up my lines.
By the third session I started going consistently 0.5-1 second faster than my previous best lap time, and comfortably sliding knee in every corner. Once I got in I did start to notice what looked like a geometry tear on the rear tire. I tried stiffening up the front and and opening up rear compression. This only made the tear worse and initiated more spinning of the rear, after 7 sessions a new personal lap record and a shredded rear tire I decided that was enough riding.
When I got home it suddenly hit me... Chain tension... I only got the final parts for the bike a day before my track day, and I was up till 11.30 pm putting the bike together. That resulted in the "small" mistake of an over tightened chain. So a new tire and looser chain, I am quite comfortable.
I have a decent setup, and a valuable lesson for my next track day. Thanks for all the help.
Watched your video on the v4s , what can I say but thank you so much.
I could dial the bike in on the track; but on the road just could not get it right. Thhe bike was a pig.
Being a x racer you would think I could set it up😩 - any way took in what you advised; Now I have a rapid and very usable road bike .
All the best buddy
First track day done so I can try to evaluate the changes. You suggested to change the oil height and were interested to hear about the results…well, I don’t know what is the best yet, but here’s what I found so far.
As recommended, I put in 10W Motorex oil, standard height 118 (from the top of the tube when at lower position without the spring) + I added 10ml on top. I couldn’t do the "just kiss bottom test" as mentioned in the video (18th minutes), I couldn’t bottom it even before disassembly.
Pressure 2.0 bar (29psi) front and 1.9 (27,5) rear Metzeler sportec M7RR, hot 2.1(30.5) front, 2.4 (34,8) rear. If I put 2,2 in front, the tire slides before the bike stands on the front wheel.
Ambient temp about 20°C, max speed at the small track is about 100km/h. (If that would be of your interest, I would be happy to send you a onboard video)
Front: 7 turns of preload/ 22mm sag
12 dots (1 turn) out of rebound (Because the rebound and compression didn’t have any fine-tuning scale but is very sensitive at almost closed state, I aded 12 dots around so I can orientate better. Both has 3 turns total, but changes happen only in a first turn)
6 dots (½ turn) of compression.
Shock: 33mm sag, 10 click rebound (30 total) (no compression settings)
Front was too hard (I think), understearing on the throttle when going out of the corner. Front very bouncy when warmed up. Fork stroke left (zip tie from the bottom out) 28 mm (wasn’t breaking as hard as latter in the day I think)
In following sessions I went through this settings:
6 turns preload, 3dots out rebound, 4 dots out compression - better handling on the throttle out of the corner, stroke left 27mm
5.5 preload, 3 rebound, 4 compression - 19mm stroke left
5 turns preload, 2 rebound, 4 comp. - 13mm stroke left, good going out of corner. …Im not sure if that was just because I went on brakes too much or to fast (or other mistake towards the end of the day) but before several corners the back started to dance around when hard breaking.
I didn’t do any changes to the shock.
What I understand from that:
1. I probably don’t know how to use the breaks in a way that the bike slows down but keeping it stabil. Or the front already too soft on preload or back little too hard.
2. Little less oil might give me better results in terms of letting me little lower while having more preload so it’s not too soft mid range of stroke
3. Thicker oil might shift the rebound setting little away from end of adjustment - there is a really big difference in 2 or 3 dots out in rebound, but very little from 4 - fully open.
4. I definitely should have bought fully adjustable shock instead of YSS with only rebound adjustment (doesn’t really work the way I would recognize any difference anyway, but was as much as I could afford)
5. To be honest, I’m surprised how big change just a little more oil made. It also may be that I just didn’t evaluate the results correctly last year and it wasn’t as bad as I thought. At least I got more into the settings and know better where I am and what I can do.
This the track day gave me some possibilities to play around with settings which I enjoy almost as well as riding it self, but I need much more of both to improve (both).
I know this is a lot of text, so if you made it so far, I really appreciate it 🙂
Im also enclosing some pictures…front looks pretty well to me. I can see there is a problem with the rear - the back edge is scrubbing-of cause rebound was too slow before (so I think it’s getting better), but there are triangles appearing… I’ll have to go through your videos again to find out what that is.
As you can tell for sure from the tire wear, I’m not using much of a lean angle and also pretty soft on throttle out of the corner. These are two weak points I'm working on (among others, endless list of what to improve 🙂
Excuse the dirt on tires, the way from the track to the parking place is not the cleanest.
Just few pics from my/our first track day this year (my first with my proper bike)...
I hope we did well, all morning played with pressures, temps and suspension.
I rode Pirelli sc1 f&r (2,30-1,90bar) and my mate rode Dunlops and we fought with pressures and his geometry (like you taught us). Finally got it right for afternoon sessions,pressures were(1,9-1,5bar). We measures pressure and temps before/after every session, it was worth it.
Thanks for your content!!!
I reduced the installed preload to 10mm on the VTR shock by machining the preload collar more so the lowest setting changed the static sag. Got a home run!
Static sag is 10mm
Rider sag is 30mm
Combined sag is 40mm.
Did a shakedown test, shock feels amazing! With 0.9 fork springs, 10wt fork oil, correct preload in rear and a functional rebound needle..the bike feels really, really good. Stable under braking, accuracy during corner entry and pretty good on exit. It was a 5/10 before now 9/10.. Thank you!
I’m going to tear apart the 03 GSXR 600 shock for practice. Then do a shock fluid change on an ‘07 ZX6R shock that is installed in my SV650. The rebound valve is pretty much ‘all in’ and tire wear shows ‘rebound too fast’..so hoping fresh shock oil will do the trick.
Thanks for the guidance! Excited to take the next step..really appreciate the time you take out of your day to help me.
Just wanted to check in with you and let you know my bike is handling better than ever, and I’m an improved rider because of it!
I want to thank you a lot for the great content and all of these useful guides. I'm a new-ish rider with about 5000 km of experience and I always thought that you need to fight against the bike to be able to ride it.
After discovering some of your videos on YouTube and diving in with the DMT website Total Access Premium Subscription in all the videos on the website I'm finally able to somewhat adjust the suspension of my bike and feel the ease and joy of riding a motorcycle. Thank you very very much and I wish you a lot of years and a ton of health to keep going and sharing your knowledge!
Just wow... I have dialed in the numbers, took all the preload on the fork out and had a blast. The bike feels totally different. Much more agile, nimble I would say.
I'm not fighting against it in corners, instead I'm pointing where I want to go and he just goes there. I still can't believe how much change it is... I doesn't feel light on the front wheel, as it was after my compression adjustments. It feels like it is more planted and I can feel how the front wheel behave itself on the road! Thank you a lot!
Hello Dave !
Successfully changed seals bushes were fine.
Massive thank you to you as I followed your process on these Showa forks on my Ducati.
Oh and I have the Adjustable C spanner/wrench on route to me.
YouTube Comments April 2020
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Mr. Moss. Me and my brother riding tracks on track days just for fun and learning as we go. These pieces of advice and knowledge are gold to us and help a bit in understanding what is going on. Thanks a lot! Keep going.
TheGeneral00 commented: "Love this video Dave! Way to be an influencer and share the knowledge to help the beginners. If I ever have the chance to teach someone else how to ride I’m definitely referencing this lesson plan.
Brilliant stuff Dave. I've always wondered how best to teach it. This makes sense. The way I learned was clutch, throttle, gears and turning all at the same time (on a 250 road bike) and resulted in much frustration and a bit of missing skin. This is much better
Amazing content to keep us content during this hard times. Much appreciated, Ray from UK.
Absolutely brilliant, Bravo
amazing content I really liked it
These are good advices.
Ron T commented: "Nice job. Nothing better than a pro giving advice. She probably went Wow he's right in the first corner lol"
mco zpda commented: "great video .. and info .. cheers"
Falcon 4 commented: "Great stuff!"
Aggressive Rider commented: "Awesome Content 🔥 🔥 🔥"
George Emms commented: "Thank you for this my man, exceptional tutor. Such a no bull, chilled, practical vibe."
Tim commented: "awesome video you deserve more subscribers"
Dave did my '16 at THill 4 years ago. I still use those settings as my basis. He gave me a street setting based on my final track setting that day and it works great with a few modifications over time. Still love my Factory. Wish I could get out on it but C19 is not making life easy.
Mario Robledo commented” “Hi Dave. Ninja 1000 has fresh fork oil and seals. I set the sag and tested it. So much better; more agile, responsive. Bike does not feel heavy now. Next is springs for the FZ10. ”
Patricia Richardson commented: "Dave has helped me out so much he's a legend when it comes to setup and what's good is he speaks in layman's terms.."
Nick Massey commented: "great video, this is one of my all-time favourite bikes. I have a Friday question suggestion. Can you have a "good" track day/Superbike School" bike that has abs you can not turn off?
Sanger Y commented: "This guy is awesome."
Thank you Dave. My bike is going in next week so I'll talk to my mechanic about this. I've been showing your videos to my wife and son (neither ride) and both are impressed with your articulate words and knowledge. Needless to say I'm very impressed also. Thanks again.
Thanks, this is great. I got one of these MT09s on standby for this track season. It was great to see you already had a video on this bike. Been a subscriber for coming up on 3 seasons now and your insight has been terrific.
moLded cAse commented: "Wow this guy is good."
Grant Kallevig commented: "Hands down the best motorcycle suspension channel on the internet."
I was literally waiting for this video for the comparison of suspension between both. I just adjusted my suspension on my R almost exactly same way. Too much compression and rebound in back. Especially the rebound felt like a pogo stick. Forks only needed to be changed a lil bit. Thanks for the videos I learn a lot.
Not going to lie, I thought this was snake oil until I saw the s1000 and could actually notice the difference as he adjusted the rebound and how the bike would move. (I actually didn't think it was fake, but with the other bikes I couldn't notice a change when they were pressed, so I assumed it was something only the rider would notice)
Wow, first time watching this and I already learned a lot. Thanks!
Awesome Dave. Just like the link you just shared with me, those symptoms are exactly what I was feeling. At first I thought I needed to get used to the throttle/clutch operations. But when I saw all that slack... a light bulb turned on in my head. Also, I’ve always been a bit unsure of how much I should move my chain up and down to take my measurement. Now I know. You ROCK man! Now I need to get to your neck of the woods and hit the track!
47MasoN47 replied: "Dave Moss Tuning I should have checked that before. You nailed it. I'll inflate the front to match the rear. Thank you sir."
Richard B replied: "Dave Moss Tuning Cheers Dave, all sorted now."
I always learn something new and interesting from you Dave, I consider you my mentor.
jeff gatlabayan replied: "Dave Moss Tuning thanks Dave👍"
@Dave Moss Tuning Thanks for replying. The SV1000 seems to love lower front-end. I already 'raised' the forks by 5mm but it seems to want more. Surprisingly the bike doesn't get unstable at all. Your 2-clicks-out video's helped me out a ton on setting compression/rebound. Bike has been transformed! Thanks
What a vast amount of knowledge, riveting watching Dave. I've adjusted my Hayabusa by the recommendations in the manual too after watching your video's Dave, and please to say that the setting really needed adjusting, the front for instance were not even at the same clicks. I've done 3 clicks out. As its a new bike for me I didn't know how it performed before I done the adjustments. The rear however, there very limited space to get in and make shock adjustments, but will try again soon. After the Corona virus clamp down, (were not allowed to make unnecessary journeys in the UK) I'm looking forward to riding my bike again. You got me real hooked Dave thanks for your attention to detail. Regards Dave D
Tijmen G replied: "Thanks again, your explanations are brilliant, might get the premium account on your website!"
Claude V. commented: "The best channel ever!"
Jay Bee commented: "Dave after Chopper Reid your my favourite Aussie. Seriously think about writing a book. Peace and thank you for what you share. Straya 🇦🇺"
Patrik Masserati commented: "Thanks for all your videos"
Jilles Wielaard commented: "Replaced the oil and seals this week using this video! Thanks Dave!"
Michael Rullis replied: "Road Warrior absolutely not. Listen to doctor dave!"
Jim Matyas commented: "Boy I have been riding with factory settings for 11 years. Wow!! Thank you!"
vanhap commented: "Thank you Dave for your most helpful videos. all of them!
Elliott Bruh commented: "You are the first person to mention side to side play good video"
Nazveel Patel commented: "1st time viewed and became fan on 15 sec"
Yet another awesome video Dave. Thanks to you I now know I have an FZ-07 with zero static sag due to non adjustable front forks with spacers 10mm too long, fork oil 5w too light, and springs rated about .5kg too heavy for my weight but not enough mechanical ability to do a damn thing about it lol. Keep up the great work!
@Dave Moss Tuning thank you 👌🏻
Hey Dave, awesome podcast. Subscribing to your website has helped a TON in learning the ins and outs of my suspension. Thanks for all your content.
Bob Holsopple commented: "Waiting for my Maxima 20wt. for my Yamaha FZ6R to arrive Friday. Thank you Dave for these videos and your help. Without witch, I would have never attempted this service. Super squishy
vanhap replied: "Dave Moss Tuning Thanks Dave for your wealth of tuning and setup videos. Love having the audio sharing what and why your doing as you go along.. You've set the bar very high my friend."
I am eager for this "national emergency" to be sorted out and we all are safe and healthy where the only personal protection include helmet and leathers- thanks for sharing your wisdom, it's much appreciated. This is exactly what I was after-
Down & Dirty commented: "This guy might be the best guy in the super moto class. Makes me want a sportbike again"
Remedy Diga commented: "Gold! Thanks for sharing this!"
E Galindo commented: "First time I know about adjusting the bike for a track. I have never been on a track but, eventually I will. Thank you very much"
What a guy. Give out this great advice and fixes all there bikes as well for free. A big thumbs up from me and subscribing 💯👍
Louie Olalia commented: "Very informative"
That blues at the end baby!! Love you guys!
Excellent video Dave. Thanks for all your help and education over the years, truly priceless!
I love how Dave Moss looks at a bike, hears and sees things that the owner doesn't know anything about, even serious riders don't see it. He could read the bike when it's been mistreated, if it was poorly set up or even the bikes fitment to the owners. I love your videos man. Keep it up! I'm learning and spreading your wisdom to friends who ride. Thank you!
Thao Nguyen commented: "You're awesome Sir !"
This guy is the motorcycle chiropractor
LJ Garrison commented: "Fantastic work; and the dude with the glasses was so fantastic with his listening and progression, proud dude right there and soaking in the knowledge of god."
J600 commented: "Okay so i'm gonna send my bike over to the US for the annual service.. Worth the cost of shipping for Dave's brain"
Charles Williams Jr commented: "Awesomeness again🤩thank you"
WICKED GIXXER L7 508 commented: "Great tips thanks ..."
Vas El commented: "👍👍👍👍👍👍😊 ❤ this video. And by the way it works."
LJ Garrison commented: "Brilliant content thank you!"
Abilash Sam commented: "What an amazing teacher."
Oh man this series is great (I want to join the sport of motorcycling). I got my endorsement last summer. I bought a bike then did the parking lot drills and around my neighborhood. Max speed about 40mph. Over the winter I couldn't ride (snow and low temps). I upgraded the suspension for fully adjustable and followed all your videos and did it myself. Hit the target of 35mm of sag (rider+static). As the weather is getting nice here I'll get out and re-do the parking lot stuff first before I get back on the main roads. Thank you for all your hard work for the community.
115BID B commented: "Great tips!! 👏👏"
David Price commented: "Zen Master! Feeling fortunate here."
ZDJames commented: "Hours of forum reading information condensed in 6 minute video. Definitely bookmarking this video"
Thanks for all your help. Btw I like how thorough your videos are and how much you explain the aspects of what you are doing, you are doing an awesome job. Your suspension videos have helped me tremendously adjusting my bike to how I ride. 👍
As soon as I flipped the tire on the rim to the correct position (even though it doesn't look it) the trailing is gone and the bike runs as straight as can be!
Thanks for all your advice and I'll definitely be referring my other riders to your videos and channels if they need help.
First off, thank you for all the free information and how-to procedures you provide on YouTube. Invaluable information explained concisely and on level depending upon the individual.
A mark of a great teacher.
There are no words to describe the knowledge that Dave has! Dave did multiple suspension tuning on my MV Agusta Dragster RC and turned it from great handling to extraordinary. Not only did he check the settings and listened to my feedback but he was able to figure out the issue from reading the different patches on both tyres.
He straight away applied the changes required and boom the bike is transferred!
Only Dave Moss can make a great handling bike better every time he makes a small change on it. Can't thank you enough and I sincerely hope that your future plans work! All the best. Aws from New Zealand"
Your help has been invaluable. Your videos has been a precious source of insight for me. More power to you.
I AM a huge fan of you and your videos on YT. Thanks to you I have improved a lot of my track day experience and motorcycle knowledge!
Hi Dave and fellow bikers.
I met Dave in Napier, New Zealand for the Ride forever talk last month before the lockdown, After talking to him he offered to go outside and look at the bike and provided a quick analysis, he made some adjustments and suggestions.
Along with the talk he gave I have made the following adjustments to my bike
- fork oil change
- zip tie front fork, a measure of suspension used and adjustment of preload (progressive springs)
- adjustment of preload and dampening on TEC shocks rear.
- handlebar change with clutch and Front brake levers correctly positioned.
- gear lever and brake lever (rear) adjustments to suit my feet and position on the bike.
A huge thanks to Dave for making me aware of fitting the bike to me.
Comfort, ride, and safety all addressed by meeting you:- my bike truly is part of me now with your help.
Greetings from Suriname,
Ever been wondering how it felt to get your bike suspension tuned, well I did. Watched every movie there is to watch on YouTube and even tried to do it myself. After a service of the front forks I did try it myself and tried to adjust my front and rear suspension. Let’s say the bike rode okay until you have a problem of sliding to the front and wondering if you should get your bike lowered.
Then comes the moment when you need to service your forks again, looking at the situation you think about lowering the bike to get all the things done in one swoop. And still linger around the thought, should you really lower your bike?
Then you think about contacting the pro, so I did. In December 2019 I just did that, I send Dave a PM with the problem I’m having of sliding to the front when riding. Dave opted to give me a free tune being the first from Suriname to reach out, being as I am, I offered to still pay (always pay for good advice). Broke my right hand before I ever got a chance to test the tuning settings, 6 weeks later my hand got out of cast so I couldn't resist trying the settings out.
The bike felt great no more sliding to the front. Great control over potholes and bumps. The bike felt solid. In short it is worth it. So if you have the same problem of sliding to the front while riding I would suggest you to check your suspension first, before doing anything else or altering your bike. You will be surprised how your bike will handle after a good suspension tune.
Thanks again Dave. Greetings from Suriname Jeet
The change in operation is drastic. The front end is a lot more settled, comfort is remarkable, with the incessant little jitters on normal roads gone. And the bike now steers neutrally and retains its line perfectly, whether leaned 10 degrees or enough to fold the pegs, whereas it used to be almost impossible to keep a steady lean and the desired trajectory. A different bike in every respect, that also copes better on any kind of surface, including frost heaves.
So thank you so much for all the tips you have shared, even though cutting springs are not part of the tutorial AFAIK. And I also lucked out by getting the cut right first time out, admittedly. (I also have a MT/FZ07 that I have spent a lot of money one that behaved very differently stock compared to the stock bike you fixed, but that's another book...)
I was lucky enough to be able to get a 2019 Ducati V4s. For being one of the top bikes right off the showroom floor, I was surprised at how loose and all over the place the bike felt when I was going through turns at a good pace. It has so many suspension settings that you can easily adjust that I thought I would go through it and try and fix those problems myself.
BIG MISTAKE. lol
I actually made things worse. The whole bike did this crazy wobble as I was accelerating coming out of turns. I needed it set up properly. So I got a hold of Dave Moss.
Unfortunately he was overseas at the time so I couldn't make an appointment in person. No problem though. He offers FaceTime or Skype appointments so I took advantage. He knew the bike so well without even seeing it that he was able to walk me through the settings on the display. Of course I had heard the terms rebound and preload but I didn't have a thorough understanding of what those really meant. So he had to interpret what I was telling him about how the bike felt.
First thing I said was, I feel like the front and the rear of the bike are not cooperating with each other and it does this wobble type thing and pushes out wide coming out of turns. Let the adjustments begin! He knew exactly what to do. We adjusted the rear shock for my weight and found out that I had made everything way too stiff while trying to fix the wobble problem. Within 30 minutes we had most of the issues sorted out.
He said go out in the next couple weeks and test it out and come back to me with what you think and we will make final adjustments. We ended up getting some rain and some things came up for preventing me from being able to get out anytime soon.
About two months later I had an opportunity to go out to lake Berryessa and take a real good ride. It felt like a completely different bike. It was no longer pushing out wide coming out of turns and it felt much more stable. I still had a problem, when I hit the brakes hard the front of the bike was dipping down too far, which didn't give me confidence when dropping into turns and the back tire was coming off the ground more than I'd like. A little bit is normal when going fast but this was too much.
I heard by this time that Dave was back in the area and that I could see him in person though it had been long enough I thought he may have forgotten about me. I got in touch with him and he remembered me and my bike and said come on by. I showed up and gave him my take on what was happening now. Again he makes more adjustments and says go try it. We must have done this 4 or 5 times and he was as patient as could be. With each adjustment my issues were getting much better. At one point I came back and we had gone a tiny bit too far. I said okay, I'm losing the feel of the front end and when I'm in a turn it feels like the front is floating. Very technical terminology I know.
He smiled and made one more adjustment and we were good. I took the bike out on a road called Calaveras, very technical and a good spot to test out the changes that were made. I was impressed. The bike now felt so stable and so solid on corner entry and had no wobble while accelerating out of the turns. I had so much confidence and felt like the bike was doing exactly what I told it to do. The rear wheel lift was under control and all around it just felt great.
Now the Ducati was what I expected it to be.
With a proper suspension setup I feel like the bike was designed specifically for me. I couldn't be happier and will have all my bikes set up by Dave in the future. It makes all the difference.
Yep I was surprised now nice it was after the suspension was set up for street use after talking to Dave for settings. Never really rode it on the street before and I expected it to be very uncompromising. Dave Moss is in town tomorrow and he is going to sprinkle some of his "fairy dust" on it.
Hey Fellow Bikers around the world!
Greetings from Sunny Singapore!
I recently did up my bike with the Wilbers (WESA Conversion) and initially assumed that it would be plug 'n play with the 'perfect settings'. However, after catching dozens of videos on suspension setup on the DMT website, I decided to approach Dave via email to seek his advice.
Dave has been extremely patient in listening to all my queries and he made sure that the settings he suggested, were tuned to my specific needs and not simply plugged out of the motorcycling sky.
I have learnt through this experience that even with ESA, it is still crucial to find the best compression, rebound and preload balance for yourself with our own riding styles, tyre setup and overall bike setup. I definitely would not have gotten it setup so quickly and safely on my own.
Thank You Dave!
Because of your videos and understanding I'm respringing my drz400s for me, can't afford valving yet but maybe one day.... Once again thanks for the knowledge you impart!
You are truly a magician! You have help me dial in every bike I have owned.
Thanks so much for your expertise and advice. You're a true legend in your field.
I will rebuild my GSX1400 forks after our lock down in NZ. Then once we are allowed to ride our bikes again I will go and do some testing, riding the same roads to get a good feel for each change. I will then send you a report on my findings.
Dave, thank you for the remote tuning session on my 690 SMC R.
I have just tuned into your web site must say its fab. I was watching your video with great interest - my bike is only factory stock Mt 07. I would just like to thank you for all the information your putting out there.
It’s LOVE! Thanks Dave!
I can't thank you enough for that adjustment. She feels way different and is way more comfortable for my shortness.
Thanks a million again and I definitely can’t wait for more future adjustments and mini lessons learned. 😍 oh and definitely thank you for being so considerate when you showed up to my place. Really appreciate the precautions done. Thanks again.
Hi Dave, I just wanted to let you know, I managed to get a quick ride in before the covid-19 lock down hit the UK, and the setup changes you recommended have made the bike so much better to ride, thank you so much for your time and efforts
Thanks very much for replying to me Dave. It's very kind of you to help me.
By me using the advice that you've tirelessly experimented and invested a lot of time and effort into achieving, saves me having to send my suspension out for expensive upgrades,which I'm not a fan of. I prefer to do as much as I can myself.
I'll let you know how I get on once I get the oil and do the work. Stay safe in these very strange times at present and thank you for your help and sharing your knowledge.
Just wanted to say thank you!
I wanted to send you my thanks for all the work you do and the videos you post.
I’m sure you’ve heard this before, and I’m embarrassed to admit it, but I was nervous to change any settings on my bike because I was afraid I would mess something up. How stupid of me! Kind of beating myself up over that, why was I so nervous? Because I didn’t understand how things worked.
I found your suspension tuning videos on Youtube, and they really gave me the confidence to try it out on my own bike. I also gained the confidence to change my own brake pads (I kept referring to your video on the Aprilia .. I used a toothbrush!).
I’ve now watched dozens of your videos on Youtube (trash or treasure GSX-R was great!), and seeing your mission on your website, well, you’ve definitely had a positive impact on me as a rider and you have improved my understanding of how my motorcycle suspension works. So I wanted to share that with you.
I ride a 2012 S1000RR and live near Atlanta, Georgia. There’s so much more I want to learn. I wish I lived in California so I could meet you in person. Maybe one day!
Again, my sincerest thank you for all you do.
I’ve been out a couple of times since the last time you emailed me. My bike feels incredibly compliant and planted in corners versus how it did prior to adjustments.
I’m using about 2/3 of my fork travel, so I might take a turn or 2 of preload out, but otherwise everything else feels very stable. I’ve been running 36 front and rear and it feels good.
When they warm up, I gain about 4-5 PSI on 60 degree day from the way I ride.
Thanks for the settings on for my Aprilia Tuono 1100 v4 factory 2018.
Been riding a couple of hours today, the bike feels great. Stable while breaking and accelerating, soft yet firm but not too harsh.
I also took a picture of the zip-tie after I tried breaking hard like I did the other day.
Looking forward to trying it out on a track day!
For those of us who are stuck at home now, what better thing to do than watch the hours and hours of incredibly informative Video content and articles Dave and his team created!
I first knew of Dave by stumbling onto one of his YouTube videos. Then fast forward a few years and low and behold he was the guy who gave me the green light to race with AFM last year at Button Willow.
It was my first race and he followed me on track to make sure I was safe. He is as cool and helpful in person as he is on his video's. Real deal guy right here.
Thank you Dave!
I just started riding a sport bike last season. Its a 95 Yamaha yfz600. I've been binge watching all of your YouTube videos for a week now.
You have taught me so much information that I never thought I would need to know. I understand my suspension so much more now and have been able to give a little insight to some fellow riders as well.
Just wanted to reach out and say thank you. Cheers.
YouTube Comments March 2020
Dave Moss Tuning From you that’s a very kind response. All I did was read a lot of comments from other CB-1 owners and engage in the debate online, then put some of the findings into practice. I’m just ignorant of enough subjects to be aware I’m not too old to learn. What you do is share your IMMENSE and priceless knowledge freely online. And the way you do it is like watching a sainted guru!! No matter how fucked up a rider’s settings, I’ve never seen you ridicule them, or even show Gordon Ramsey style exasperation over their choices. So, it’s THIS I’m most grateful for. I know it’s my LACK of patience that very often hinders my ability to help others, no matter how good my knowledge of any specific subject. If you were on TV the producers would be looking for the most dangerous setups and the most stupid riders - just to test your resolve!! What kills bikers most often? Failure to plan ahead appropriately? Maybe. But when and where should that planning actually begin? In my humble opinion it should at least be somewhere close to the choices we make about who’s advice we firstly seek, then listen to, then take on board, then respect and revisit (having double checked if we want), then implement, carry with us and share with each other. That’s how humans evolved from the grunting stage. MC Rider and you share the calmness and patience which cause you both to stand out from the crown of fevered egos and false prophets, who’s eye is mainly on their profile and the profits they can make in terms of kudos and Dollars. Anyway, enough of this smoke blowing and philosophical bollox. Ride safe bro.
He's a motorcycle scientist, and you can tell how well he knows his shit by how easily he is understood
So since it has been the MT for awhile is this referring to the older FZ models? Also I haven’t rode one myself but everyone tells me that it handles like a piece of cake the cornering is so simple and smooth and they love it which seems odd since you are claiming a horrible suspension setup. Either way I like the info and the way you communicate with people. I enjoyed learning some new things
This video is so perfect 4k and Dave is so on it. The doctor is in!
This guy speaks magic if people listen.
best bit is the tension wrench he is using.... .. what a great video .. thank you Dave Moss
Shared to the MT-07 UK owners club. Everyone should know how to safely set up their suspension so thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Robin Andersson: "Dave Moss Tuning awesome, thank you for taking your time to answer my question 👌
Lim H commented: "He deserves more subscribers!"
coby PORSCHIFER commented: "THIS WAS AWESOME 🤘 I felt like I was in a MOTO GP GARAGE DURING THE RACE. THE GURU HAS ARRIVED⚛"
hąřpśhøõțëŕ commented: "This guy is good"
Fantastic video, thanks. I'm just about to buy one (Triumph Thruxton R).
mrxraymri replied: "Dave Moss Tuning thanks again for your help and all the Free 99 information. :-)"
Petros Skopelitis replied: "Dave Moss Tuning Thank you! 😁"
Chris Szeliga commented: "Dave is the man!!!"
I had this done by an expert but without all the explanation you're giving. Just a smug grin from the technician because everything he did was new to me. I love this video because you explain what you're doing and why. You're doing a great job!
Johnboy commented: "Great videos on the tear down. Love how you did the go tight trick before you loosen. This was taught early in my aircraft maintenance career by my instructor many years ago."
I love how calm, kind, and informative he is. It's nice to see someone with his level of knowledge not talking down to people, and instead providing them with the information they need. This is the kind of man that wants everyone to be able to enjoy a fun, safe ride. Mad props to this guy, I wish I could ride with him some day.
The engineering crowd will pee all over it. 🤣🤣🤣. There is no other competent channel that's this entertaining
Wow a free expert consultation. THANKS SO MUCH
I love this guy, he is like a bike Pope.. I wonder if he could adjust my shitty old bike
From: Emil Bendtsen
Here’s a little thank you for all your AMAZING videos, you have given me the confidence to work on a lot of different things on my bike. Just a few weeks before discovering your YouTube page I was afraid to do the simplest things like changing oil/filter or brake pads.
Now I am all over my bike working on tuning in the suspension, renovating calipers, taking things apart and making sure everything is as it should be!
Thank you! And thank you some more for sharing!
Thank you so much for your videos! I recently purchased a 2017 FZ-10, and after watching numerous videos from you, and editor Dave lol, it gave me the confidence to begin working on my suspension settings myself. Hopefully the next time you visit NorCal, i can catch you. Thanks again!
He's basically doing alignments for motorcycles it's amazing
So lovely to watch a person who know what he do. Moss have so much experience about bikes/motorcycles.. Lovely to watch.
Jack T commented: "What a guy! a true hero."
Brew Watch Co. commented: "Really appreciate all that you do for the riding community, Dave!"
Chris Kambouris commented: "100% in line with many other professional trainers and literature on the market today - great video!"
aditya thakur commented: "The bike is purring coz it knows this guy is a bike genius and it's in love with him."
Admir Karalic commented: "I like this Guy, he's so into what he does that he could've told me anything and I would've believed it."
Johnboy commented: "A great lesson on energy management. Something i had to get used to racing a TZ250 was very little engine braking."
Mr Dave you make suspension tuning look so easy. I'd love to have you check out my bike if your ever around the Florida area
I had this done by an expert but without all the explanation you're giving. Just a smug grin from the technician because everything he did was new to me. I love this video because you explain what you're doing and why. You're doing a great job!
Kerry M commented: "Thank You Dave Moss I playing with my MT 10 you helped me out!"
King James commented: "Dave's the G"
PCCW Grandiose commented: "very educational video, now I start understanding motorbikes is."
Gee Sri Fernando commented: "Mechanic with knowledge. Awesome sir"
Lordtunaboat commented: "This is the perfect model for a YouTube video, no into b.s., self promotion or advertising/sales. Just great content."
25 years ago, when I started riding, there was no internet. Now you can watch and learn from the best. I always thought Dave Moss was a fantastic musician, but now I learn he's also the best mechanic 🙂 just kidding.
Somehow I got a puncture in the bladder in the rear shock on my yz125, which released most of the nitrogen into the suspension fluid. Talk about pogo! I decided to just go ahead and rebuild the front and rear suspension and I've gotta say it taught me so much about how important proper suspension setup is. I just started from factory settings and worked from there, but honestly I think the single most important part was setting the race sag, I didn't realize how much that would help especially if you plan on adjusting the suspension, you've gotta have a proper base setting to work off
Hi Dave, We as motorcyclists should appreciate the expert knowledge that you share with us non-experts. Thank you for adding value. I just picked up an Fz-07 today and it has no static sag. I'm about 185-190lbs with gear. I will try the 15w oil swap and the 10mm spacer reduction, unless you suggest otherwise. Do you see much value in progressive springs in addition to the prior mods or just stick to the stock ones? Thanks in advance sir!
Hubert commented: "you sir are doing god's work <3"
Brian Burk commented: "This guy is a moto genius"
Can you please do a 2018 Kawasaki z650? I'll have to do a remote tune with you when I have the spare cash. I love your videos mate. I'm a member on your website. can't get enough. you've taught me so much!
Fee Thank you for your contributions to the Motorsport community. You’re an inspiration and frankly give me hope I may still enjoy life with...ahem....advanced age.
I can’t wait to insure the bike, just adjusted the levers height and reach. Feels a lot better already, thank you for the input...!!!!
Da Vinci commented: "You're a heck of a suspension pro. Wow !"
genius at work.
Riccardo Pelc-wesoly commented: "Take a shot every time he says 'bump' ahah what a legend you are sir."
Mihai Ionescu commented: "Very good tutorial Dave. Thank you !
Bryan Keise commented: "this video for me was a huge help Dave expertly done simple teaching demonstrating thank you. was totally confused as to what I was doing beforehand top marks"
Skippy11 replied: "Dave Moss Tuning thanks for taking the time to respond! Greatly appreciated!"
Mihai Ionescu replied: "Dave Moss Tuning thank you for clearing that up for me."
rusmokin commented: "Hi Dave, new sub and love your channel.
Radomír Frkous commented: "Everybody needs a "wizard" like this in their city. It's a pleasure to watch you working mate!"
Bryan Harrison commented: "genius spanning decades"
Tyler commented: "nice content keep up the good content"
Christian Cabaddu Wow he’s good !
felton jones Dang he's good just by looking at tire marks 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Rally Zamora commented: "Great knowledge on suspension"
Moto Jockey replied: "Deniz Oğuz Sevil get a stiffer spring then set you preload etc after that you should be in good shape. Great videos Dave can’t wait to meet again.🙌🏁🏁🏁"
Brew Watch Co. commented: "I have an 1199 Panigale - seeing this just reminds me that I need to do a proper suspension tuning this summer. Always appreciate your content, Dave! Thank you -Jonathan"
JustDoItWith Chase commented: "I put 15w in the forks and cut the spacers down 10mm. It made a huge difference. I’m not riding a pogo stick anymore. This guy is a suspension god. 👍"
XimerTracks - Sub To Me commented: "Awesome vid. Please Make More."
billfavre555 commented: "I learned more about setup on this video than anything I have read, we need more Dave's out there. Thank you for a truly great upload."
Patrick Foster commented: "So glad I found the Dane Moss channel! Professional demonstrations you can really trust! My bike is loving it too!! Cheers P[><]F"
Dave is a jackpot to me 😀 Keep it up! Every single video is satisfying
This was a great video! Learnt a lot. Many thanks Dave 👌
My name is Aaron, I am based in Singapore, a small island country in Southeast Asia. Recently, I have been watching your suspension tuning videos on YouTube and I think you are a real blessing to bikers. Thank you for all the amazing advice and sharing of knowledge.
Henry Spencer, Yamaha MT10 2018 2500miles
Morning Dave. I’ve been really impressed with your advice regarding suspension. I love your content and passion to help.
Sylvan Despres commented: "awesome video. full of invaluable insights."
ya33a Your insight into the workings of the relationship between, bike, suspension tyre (tire) road and rider presented in a format and language that "numpties" like me can understand and use is really appreciated. Thank you again.
In your opinion, having the possibility to do so, is it possible to re-make the spacers with some high-end alloy like 7075? Is it simply overkill? Cheers from Italia!
2 Wheels N' Stuff commented: "This man is a genius"
Hepsuuu replied: "Dave Moss Tuning thanks for leading with example and being active with the community, very helpful pointing out those facts. Appreciate it"
ericmelvin10 commented: "Love the way Dave explains everything, and he has the expertise to go directly to solve the problem without going around... You've a new subscriber!"
Mücahit Ali Koç replied: "Dave Moss Tuning thanks boss. I am similar weight your video guy. I try the find my settings for forks. You are the life saver"
Szymon Masłowski commented: "I asked You about MT-07, when you posted last film. I forgot to tell you, how glad I am that I found Your channel 😀 Cheers from Poland!"
TheComicalCanadian commented: "cool content bro"
Chris Boyce commented: "What great teacher!!"
Rodney Jacobs replied: "Dave Moss Tuning Thanks Dave. I really appreciate your videos. I have learned a lot by following your channel."
Alexandre Szpajdel commented: "nice video sir!"
Ernie Simsek replied: " Thank you for your videos and shared knowledge. You’re a champion 👍"
This guy is by far the best coach I have seen. Very knowledgeable and hands on. My absolute dream job if I can ever make money at it. Much more than the track, he’s found ways to save people’s lives on the street by making them more aware of their machines. Keep up the good work Mr Dave Moss.
swift chopper commented: "Sterling videos.”
ALEXANDER I commented: "Amazing skills and explanations"
You’re a champion and a gentleman Dave. I’ve just spent the last hour reading all the comments and you answer almost all questions, even when the question has been answered earlier to another comment. Take care and hope to meet you one day if you ever come to Melbourne Australia.
P Abinash commented: "Chiropractor of bikes. There I said it."
Old Smokie commented: "How the feck do shops get away with not doing basic setups on new bikes for riders ? We did basic sag settings free on £500.00 mountain bikes....Thanks Dave for solid advice."
Alexandre Manoel dos Santos commented: "So nice, Dave: best regards from Laranjeiras do Sul / PR / Brazil ... 🙂 ..."
TheLiddleBigChannel commented: "Brilliant material!"
kenny commented: "For me this is by far the best tuning info I’ve ever heard !! Thank you Dave for your expert opinion !! Love your videos !! Wish you your team and family the best !!!!"
David Tapara commented: "If I want spiritual enlightenment I will go and see a guru. If I want to learn anything about my bike I watch Dave Moss"
goblok nekat commented: "See something that the others don't. He has eagle eyes, respect from Indonesia"
Kaleplek commented “Hello Dave, I am Leo from the Netherlands. On YouTube I have seen many of your videos. Great information, I thank you for that.”
Okay I simply wanted to say thank you! I was able to get my 08 cbr1000rr properly set up as I only weigh 150 and purchased from a 220lb man. Rides so, so much better, even seems more flickable in the curves and just overall more control:) just hope I don’t have it to soft.
Nangram Aboh commented: "Love love it,I mean never thought about this things.dave moss you're are a genius in motorcycle"
Davey Lad replied: "Oh he's good alright."
Graham McKenzie commented “Dave watching your videos from years gone by i have set my sports bike and friends with amazing results”
I just wanted to touch base again to let you know how the suspension adjustment went.
First I pulled the castle nut back to about mid thread count, & the rebound screw about mid range. It is remarkable how much better the bike handles & feels.
I am going to do a bit of finer tuning next week before I ride again after my work week ends. But we are definitely way closer to right than the outset.
Thanks again for your direction & expertise. Stay safe! Very grateful Fred!
I think the best thing that I got out of the experience, which I did expect from Dave but wasn’t abundantly clear on 😊 (I hope others realized this as well) is that he was teaching us about our setting so that we can set them ourselves in future, suspension is not a set and forget thing they need adjustments for a number of reasons.
Chief Executive Officer
This is Edoardo from Italy. Just saw one of your video on You Tube, it’s amazing how u explain issues around suspensions and how you fix it!
Hope you are staying healthy.
I finally got a chance to ride the Triumph 675R again and it felt much better after the changes.
It felt much easier to 'dive' into the corner.
At the end of a 140 mph straight, the brakes felt less potent - maybe that had to do with the front-end compressing more than I am used to?
That's a minor thing to get used to, overall I am happy with the new setup!
I haven’t been able to get out on my bike yet, but after watching all of your videos regarding sag and tire wear, I now know my front and rear compression is way too stiff, so I know I need to remove some. I had no static sag in the rear, which explained why I was getting launched off the seat with each bump, and I had to take 3 full turns off my rear preload spring to get the 12-15mm of static sag. I reset my bikes settings to standard, per the manual, but I have compression set to 1 turn out from standard on both the front and rear, so when I go out next I will check my tire wear, and I will assess how well the bike is compressing in corners *I have the jagged black/grey tire wear on the edge*.
Last time I went out, the bike felt good, but it feels like it’s not compressing much at all in turns and it’s making it really hard to steer, but I’m hoping with these adjustments it should be good. I’ll check my fork travel when I go out next, and I will check my sag numbers on front and rear, adjust them to the 30-40mm range if they aren’t already, the next time I’m all geared up. I also set the rebound dampening on my front and rear, according to your “pass or fail” method; The forks come up and settle with no bounces, and the rear does spring up too quickly, so it seems just right.
Your videos are amazing, and I’m learning a tremendous amount I never knew.
I was able to get a few km ridden today after changing the preload on the rear (approx. 100km) and the ride is a lot better! Especially on the bad road surfaces one doesn’t get bounced so much in the saddle anymore!
Thanks again for the great set up advice. I used the settings you recommended and my Tuono handles fantastic.
From: Matt Tucker
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2020 2:37 PM
To: Bruce Johnston
Subject: RE: After the Class Update from Dave Moss
Thanks Bruce for the class.
I think the best thing that I got out of the experience, which I did expect from Dave but wasn’t abundantly clear on 😊 (I hope others realized this as well).
He was teaching us about our setting so that we can set them ourselves in future. Suspension is not a set and forget thing they need adjustments for a number of reasons.
Keep well and once again thanks to you and the Council.
Chief Executive Officer
To: Bruce Johnston
Subject: Re: After the Class Update from Dave Moss
Thank you very much for organizing a once in a lifetime experience with Dave Moss. One day with him has forever changed the way I look at both riding motorbikes and how I look at the roads that we ride them on. I have gained skills that I will be able to teach people and will in turn be making a lot more riders experiences safer and better!
All adjustments made, went out for a hoon yesterday on some typical UK "B" roads and some major A roads and the bike felt very compliant and gave me a lot of confidence
From: Jiri (George) Kralik
Subject: Appreciation from CZ
Dear Dave, I have been watching your tuning videos for about a second winter (now even more with restrictions cased by corona - more time).
I just want to express I really appreciate the information you share and the way you share it. It helped me a lot to understand better what to do with my old bike Im trying to do some track days with (CBR600F PC35 99 complete rebuild last winter after I got it).
I'm usually attending one day track-days on a small circuits, not longer than a mile. It's really technical with low speeds, so if you slip, nobody get's hurt 🙂 I'm also going to do a track day in Brno, CZ (I'm sure you know that one) this summer - so, different setting for sure.
Anyway, just wanted to drop you a line to say how much I appreciate your work.
Thank you for your reply! As you probably heard a million times it amazing how much you can tell from tires!
I'm a huge fan of you and your videos and I've been using them to slowly try to dial in the suspension for my 2017 Aprilia Tuono.
I saw in the comments section of one of your tire-reading remote tuning session videos that you could offer initial street settings in exchange for a donation. I'm interested in getting your expertise that way both as a potential new baseline but also to check my own efforts so far.
I'm looking for suspension and tire pressure settings that will work for "spirited street riding", but we don't have a lot of canyon or mountain roads around here. Basically, I want the bike to be as intuitive as possible for me on the street without venturing into settings that only make sense for the track in terms of comfort and tire wear.
Please let me know if there's anything else I can provide and how to make a donation to you and your awesome efforts for the motorcycling community!
Thank you so much Dave Moss for adjusting my suspension today at the HD Moto day at Hampton Downs. What a difference you made to my day.
I turned up with settings on my ZX6R as per the Manual which was totally wrong 😬.... thankfully Dave did his magic and as you can imagine this was me all day 😃🏍💕 super awesome day!!!
YouTube comments February 2020
Dave in shape as always shows perfectly how bike is in harmony front/rear
Thank you so much for the reply’s. I will do this and look forward to that video! Hope to catch one of your clinics someday. Liked and sub’ed!
Jake The snake commented: You’re the man Dave!
savage Bimmer commented: phenomenal video thanks for the valuable info
Tried the zip tie having watched this. Great tip.
Dave is the MAN!! If he is at the track while you’re there- you will be missing out if you don’t let this man set your suspension! I’m telling you! He will have it on RAILS after 2 sessions.... thank you Dave! See you soon sir!
D I commented: “This is incredible. So informative”
Javier gonzalo Henriquez beltran commented: "Good!"
Great video and best bike ever RSV4R Factory)!! question: which torque to apply to the fork pinch bolts? it is not written in my RSV4 the maintenance manual...
Wow, I haven’t been to the track yet, but this man is a legend, TOP JOB Dave, I love you, great know-how
Shane Cannon: I’ve been watching all your you tube videos love the work mate I’ve learned a lot
Am not sure if my comment will be read, but I really appreciate the valuable information you share Sir, the information you share is not generally accessible to many, if not accessible it's too expensive to get to places that teach you. Thank you for the videos and all the knowledge you impart.
Nico Linde Dave did the set up on my Zx14 last year, fantastic and a huge difference! I highly recommend a suspension setup
Janine Burns Dave has set up my last 2 bikes - made a massive difference to their handling - well worth the education 🙂
Joshua Munkeby commented: "This guy speaks magic if people listen."
I remember watching a youtube vid for onthethrottle TV, years ago, with Dave Moss talking about suspension adjustments. It was simple to follow, and it helped in my bike riding comfort confidence and experience. Thanks Dave.
Thanks Dave! You are the best!
This man is the suspension guru. Absolutely awesome knowledge
Morganisms Hangin Outtayah commented: "what a great video .. thank you Dave Moss"
This video is about to pop off, it's being shared around Fz07 groups, Thanks for the content <3
Jonata replied: "Dave Moss Tuning you're the greatest, man"
MDHenry4 Henry commented: "This video is so perfect 4k and Dave is so on it. The doctor is in!"
Jag 321 commented: "Not only working on there Bikes u have to deal with customers.Great Job Dave"
Great vids , the only indignity I have suffered over the years is I never knew of your channel before yesterday so now I am binging it all. It is quite unhealthy but at least it will keep me off that chopper 😀 .
Wonderful videos! Where were you when i club raced back in the 90s and was completely clueless on suspension tuning! I love how you can tell so much just from the way the tire rubber is balling up. I learn so much watching your videos.
You're a legend Dave
Crackli'nBraap I like how he does it like a Doctor, well I do believe he is one as he does.
Mike Louder commented: "I went and took a click out of preload on the back of my bike because of this video. I kinda think I had static sag but now I am sure I have some. Have to see how the bike rides tomorrow"
Great video. I recently purchased RST Tractech Evo 3 CE Boots and on my first ride, it was uncomfortable and unnatural to up-shift. I had to point my toe down to the ground first in order to clear the shift pedal, and then be able to up-shift. Adjusting the shift pedal is very simple to do: loosen the top and bottom nut of the shift pedal, and hand twist the shift pedal rod clockwise and anti-clockwise to raise or lower the shift pedal. Hop on the bike again and check with your motorcycle riding boot, or whatever footwear you use to ride. If satisfied, then tighten up the two nuts, and you're good to go.
yumpladukfoo commented: "Dave is a most humble man."
How is it even possible to dislike this video? This guy does his job and knows what to do. He gives back his knowledge in such a pleasant manner, so the customers get it and don't feel dumb. Cheers for this.
ShakespearesBruv commented: "I don’t even own a Yamaha and I watched this. Man’s a god."
David Baker commented: "amazing ! what a cool guy"
Falmesino He travels, teaches and bring back people to the right path Dave Moss, The Tuning Prophet
Hey Dave, just wanted to thank you for giving all of us around Auckland area the opportunity to have our bikes setup before you leave. After having you setup my bike yesterday at HDs I went for a nice ride this morning for 3 hours and the bike is so planted and stable and feels so good and easier to ride, no sore wrists or fatigue at all. Also my chicken strips were 15mm wide on the rear before I left... now they are completely gone.
Thank you for getting back to me so fast! I would definitely come out if you come to NY or Connecticut. I have also watched alot of other videos you have and love the advice you're giving. Thank you for being so informative and sharing the knowledge you have. I hope to see you this year! Stay safe and healthy!
I think your approach to the whole subject is fascinating, thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Long-time viewer of your videos and recently became a member to access Premium content. Have learned so much from your shared knowledge and experiences!
Evan here, we met today leaving the Countdown supermarket in Upper Hutt - the guy with the broken arm.
Just wanted to thank you again for the tireless effort to increase knowledge and save lives in the motorcycling community. I’ve learned an awful lot from your YouTube content and I’m really miffed that’s I can’t be at your workshop while you’re so close (can’t drive or ride in my current state!).
You mentioned I should ping you about my bike because you had some essential settings/adjustments for it? 2018 MT-07 Tracer. I’m out of cast in three weeks and can’t wait to blow the cobwebs off.
Hope you found the council buildings alright!
The day started a bit cold and wet for Florida. By lunch time the track conditions were perfect. I was riding good and the bike felt awesome. Only on the last session of the day the bike started moving and I knew then that my rear was done.
I got time to do the test only today, here are my results
I added 2 more turns of pre load to the rear shock in the clockwise direction. Squirted some water on the shock shaft to make some visual observations after the ride.
Went for a ride to get the oil hot. Before going for the ride, the rear shock setting was C6 R6. During this ride I felt comfortable and the bike felt agile.
Good morning Dave,
I removed two turns of preload as advised. There's was evident improvement in comfort and handling. The bike finally "sat" well and felt well planted in turns.
I have been a avid follower and subscriber to your YouTube channel for some time now and have just set up a account on your website.
I think your videos are not only informative and educational but I can see that your advice is definitely the one to trust. Saying this I have just purchased one of your videos on the Honda CBR1000RR 2006 fork service and have just completed this using a 10w oil.
I have a whole different understanding of suspension and tyres after your teaching at Mac Park earlier this year Dave, really looking forward to Eastern Creek at the end of the month now that I have a better understanding. Thanks mate
First of all I would like to express my gratitude towards all of your guidance. Your videos have brought me reassurance and knowledge towards riding as well as understanding the fundamentals of a motorcycles mechanics in general.
Today I went for a 2 hour ride; a lot of curvy/windy roads at slow speeds, some bends at high speeds 120kph+, some high speed straight away 160kph+, was a good all around ride and the suspension setup was much better; I didn't feel like I was trying to hold onto a bucking horse this go around.
I have a fair amount of static sag; and my front end zip ties look to be in a good spot (no wheelies/see photo below).
FYI: The city of Medellin, Colombia is building a race track; suppose to finish construction next year. Would love to see you tuning up bikes for an open-to-public track day in the future.
Just been for a test ride with preload between 8-15mm and there's a huge improvement. Response is awesome (sharp) and it feels like it hugs all the bumps and dips in the road with minimal shock to the body.
Cheers Dave been watching all your Youtube Videos trying to understand suspension its been a great inside. Thanks Mate!
Thanks heaps Dave!
After a 400km ride today, my son Ollie has already felt the difference with the suspension on the VFR750 since you adjusted it.
I’ve now learned enough to sort the forks out and we have been experimenting with tire pressures.
Thanks again for your time.
Hey Mr Dave,
I'm sure you don't remember me but you set the suspension on my track bike years ago. I had been trying and trying to get my knee down on my bike but couldn't. I was very new to this track thing - I had been to over 5-6 track days and it was a big deal to me to drag a knee like every new rider wants to do!
Anyway, I want to thank you for that day.
I went out for 6-7 sessions, after every session I went straight to you and you did your magic. By the 3rd session I was able to get a knee down - it scared the shit out of me when it happens for the first time!
By the end of the day I had worn half of my knee puck out 🙂
The next month I entered into a race school to have my first actual race. Believe it or not I took first place my first race and 2nd my next races at Barber.
If you are ever in the New Orleans area please let me know. I would love for you to set my Suspension on my newest baby!
Have a good one and thanks again!!
My socket set came today in the post. I can't wait to get into it! Order a C spanner on eBay too. The tyre pressures you gave me were spot on! They were in the 20's! She felt more solid, stable and balanced! Cheers.
Thanks for the adjustments to the suspension on my FZ1. A 150km run felt noticeably more stable on bends and a smoother, relaxing ride.
I have repositioned the levers & rotated the handlebars to keep pressure off my thumb. Seems to be working.
You Tube comments Jan 2020
I like the wheel off approach. Loving your videos I even subscribed to your website and I’m learning more about bikes this month than I have in two years on my own.
Hi Mr Moss, love your videos.
Holly crap!! By far, far the best tutorial I've ever seen!! Super clear explanations, very articulate ,well...MR MOSS...I think we can say you're the very best in that field, the creme of the creme.
Anthony Page commented:
Awesome video the man knows his stuff wish I could of met the legend 👌
I wish we have somebody like you at Sepang Circuit Trackday. For me, you are a maestro!!
Dave clearly you are a wizard, ever come back to the UK to do setups?
J 9 replied:
I met you at Buttonwillow a few months ago. My Triumph Tiger Explorer you set up is just great....thank you again.
Hello from Kuwait ... Thanks for your help Dave ... Am doing better now cuz of your help 💪 Thanks Again🌷
Scott Matthews commented:
Just wanted to thank you for taking time and sharing your PRICELESS knowledge. I've learned so much from vids man! Awesome vid.
Juan Cruz commented:
Bro!!! This is LITERAL gold!!! This info is amazing. Thank you Dave for blessing our lifes with this knowledge. We aren’t worthy lol.
Superb video, hooked on Dave’s info now and spoke to him via fb - hopefully get my bike setup by him in the future in the UK!
This is a man who knows his shit!
Excellent knowledge and pointers Dave. Already I'm changing my riding style, and have altered my suspension set ups. Keep it up. Great work.
Nice videos with a lot of insight!
Patryk Januszewski commented:
I love it, Dave! Great, simple, and useful information -as always! Thanks for putting this together -love the intro! ;D
You're the master.. brother..
KEVIN TRIBE commented:
How happy are these guys after a test ride, love your work Dave
🌟 Tori's Trails replied:
Cheers Dave. Great to meet you also and I appreciate the advice you offered. I have ordered a Nitron shock replacement and will be doing the forks soon too. 👍🏍️🤗"
Sonic Bboy commented:
Thank u for everything man word u helped me alot❤️✅
At age 56, 185lb, 6 foot, a friend and I rented 2 bikes in Phuket for 2 days. Ninja 650 and cb 650. Both are to small and under powered. Went back to America and bought a Ducati Monster 900. It had the power but was to small. I learned that finding a bike that fits your body is most important. Finally after 7 months of sitting on everything on the market and much research I bought a 2019 yamaha tracer 900 GT, then upgraded the seat from Seat Concepts to add more height to just over 35 inches. And with it in A mode it has just enough power for my first bike.
Brilliant. Love watching your YouTube and uploads!
Omg please work on my bike that would be amazing: 2012 triumph Daytona
Fang Zhang commented:
Thank you sooo much! Very informative. Respect! Can't believe it's been 9 years and I can't even find a local coach that can share the info you mentioned.
Stefano Manzoni commented:
Thank you Mr. Moss, your insight is invaluable.
Thankx Dave what you're teaching is invaluable. I've been riding 40 years and never got any clear answers on suspension set up until now.
Dutch Motos commented:
Learned useful stuff thanks.
Dave S commented: "The guru 😎"
Dave runs through this stuff so quickly and proficiently, it's a lot of information to take in under a very short period of time. He doesn't "hem" or "haw" with his statements. This means you need to pay attention and focus closely on what he says. It's impressive and intimidating, but watching these videos over and over helps you pick up a LOT on what's going on through various scenarios. Huge endorsement for Dave and getting your bike set up. If you have ANY doubts, abandon them. If you have the opportunity to have Dave work on your bike at the track, do NOT pass it up. If you can't because of location, then you should look into getting your suspension professionally adjusted regardless. Thanks for the video, Dave!
Christopher Harper commented:
Wow! Brilliant! Like a bike chiropractor but much more scientific.
Moto Tom commented:
Thank you for your videos !!!
Thank you for posting this and sharing your knowledge. Applied most of it to a 2003 and changed out damaged unit in a short amount of time even as a complete novice at working on bikes.
Thanks for making the time and effort to record this video. Has provided invaluable assistance on how to do this job properly.
Hi Dave. Just ran into quite a bit of your amazing videos in YouTube. Thanks for that!
Hi Dave thank you for contacting me. I cleared my email mistakenly. I really enjoy your YouTube series. It has been tremendously helpful.
this was awesome, it takes the fear out of my questions. knowing I can play with oil levels and not being 100% dealer spec is great.
David Adiv commented: "That was one of the most important and Educating things I saw in YouTube, for a long time"
Karlin Naidoo Thank you so much Dave i almost though i got it the wrong way. you made my day
Thanks Dave. This is more technical getting it back together than I would have guessed. However, I'm not sure I understand the need to remove the calipers.... Won't the wheel just drop away from them? Why the need to remove? Although getting them remounted correctly with your technique I am going to remember when I next remove them to clean them. Good stuff.
Dave I just wanted to give you a huge "Thank you".
I have finally gotten the front-end feel I have been searching for ever since purchasing the triumph 765 RS. Even after raising the forks 5 mm, decreasing fork Compression and removing all the preload on the forks, setting the race SAG to 33% of available travel, I could still not get the front end feel I was searching for in the bike. I was perplexed.
Did Triumph get this bike so far off the mark?
After a conversation with you you suggested setting free sag two between 5 and 8 mm, stiffer rear spring, and changing the fork oil to 5 weight from 10 weight with 100 mm air gap. I first changed free sag to 8mm with a stiffer rear spring. I felt More Improvement could be made with a bit more rear ride height and set the free sag to 5mm And change the fork oil to 5 weight oil with a hundred millimeter air gap. There we go!!!
Finally! This is what I was searching for, much better steering. And most importantly bite from the front end. Thank you again Dave for your insight into getting this thing to finally feel comfortable on Corner entry. Now to find tune compression and rebound settings.
Results of my track time w your help/settings on my Kawasaki Concours! I rode the bike 30 miles to the track and they were warm so I set the psi to 34 front and rear for the day.
Fork zip tie pix after 4th session with very hard braking. Line on shock is at 27mm which is 17mm from bottom out and 10 mm safety margin. Tie went right to the 10mm margin! I used it all!
Thanks for your great help.
This is just a detailed briefing on my experience with Dave Moss on over the 17th-19th Of February at Mac Park while assisting at the Levi Day (On Track Rider Coaching Schools)
Not only was the information laid across from Dave extremely valuable and full of a lot of years worth of knowledge, but there were also a lot of things that I had never even thought about in my years of racing that could contribute to say Fatigue on the bike, or even excessive tire wear or Arm Pump Ect.
Dave and I worked closely over the 2 days as best as we could, as he has a lot of people at him for help cause they know what his knowledge is worth after experiencing it first hand, Now one of the major things that Dave put into play was (Is your bike fitted too you?) I was sort of startled by the question as I'm thinking to myself of course it is. When in reality we just threw the bars on the bike and the rear set's and went hey that feels alright let's go out!
Dave Was soon to explain how important getting your bike fitted to you as perfectly as you can is, and that's something that we worked on, Moving handlebars, in and out up and down, as well as making sure my hands were positioned correctly and then realizing that my hand was getting an extreme cramp every time that I went out discovering that the issue all along had been caused by my Brake Protector.
He explained all the small things that contribute to one huge end result, as far as moving your brake lever in or out to suit your hand size to get better brake feel through my fingers, and not be clawing at the brake like a bird!
After getting the bike set up incredibly well and I mean, the difference it made riding the bike with it fitted properly to myself was like night and day, I really don't have the words to describe it as it made such a major difference, I went from getting 12 Laps in and getting cramps to getting 30Laps in and almost running myself out of fuel!
Dave explained it should be 2 Completely different things and I shouldn't be going back to the drawing board with other disciplines in mind, I should Focus on everything that I had learned from Road Racing and not try adding things in that I had learned from MX.
Dave's knowledge and expertise really shows when working on Suspension. We changed PreLoad, spoke a lot about Spring Rates and played with the clickers quite a bit, and all working towards a better end goal, I was doing the same lap times on a completely F**** Tire as I was doing on a near brand new Tire, Now mac park is incredibly grippy but you're still going to lose lap time when the tire goes off no matter what, and Dave constantly worked towards giving the bike better grip and a better feeling with the feedback I was providing him.
Dave made my job as a rider incredibly easy, telling me a few things that I could take charge of at home and even in the pits to take a little extra stress off of my Mechanics as well as making sure that I'm 110% confident and satisfied with everything going on around me.
I would recommend Dave to anyone at any skill level, Whether you're just learning to ride a motorcycle or you're a seasoned GP Star, Knowledge like this is incredibly hard to find, and it's even harder to find someone that is willing to help people with the experience they've learned over the years and they are equally as willing to teach as long as you're willing to learn.
Thank you heaps for your time Dave the information will not go astray. I'm sure there are things I've missed to add into this email but trust me for anyone reading this and thinking I've lost my marbles there is no way there was that much information laid down.
Trust me - you need a pen and paper every time Dave is speaking to you.
ASBK SSP 600 Metcher Motorsports.
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Thank you Dave. I learnt more than I thought possible from you and Levi's coach days. See you next year!
Hi Dave! I bought a subscription to your channel and it is awesome!!! I really like the work you do!!
It was awesome. See you in December for more tweaks ps:- bring stickers!
Thanks Dave for tuning my old 04 CBR1000. As I’m new to track riding I did feel more confident as the day went on. 👍
Enjoy the hills.
Many thanks Dave for setting up my 1199S Tricolore. Had a great day and so well organized by all at Track Action 👍👍🏍
Cheers for setting up my blade.. + don’t forget to wind everyone up here in Perth by talking about spinning the front tire... + keep the videos coming even if we forget half the stuff..🙄Geordie Craig!
Hi there Dave,
I’ve attached two photos (front tyre & rear tyre). I’ve been working a lot on my own suspension on my 2016 r1, mainly learning through your technical advice through videos and articles which I find absolute gold. I’m using completely stock suspension on the bike with a set up I’ve made to suit my riding style, weight, etc.
Much appreciated, Matt
Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge and experience. Watching and listening to has taught me so much. I has given me the confidence to change my front fork oil and work out that my shock spring rate had to be increased, which I have now changed.
Thanks for all the amazing material. The subscription is worth gold! I love truly love how reading tires and learning about physics and how the bike is built and set up demystifies so much. Thanks!
Hello Dave !
I'm from India and have been watching your videos on YouTube. I want to thank you for providing such informative videos which are extremely helpful for people like me who are interested in their bikes and want to understand it well.
Brilliant. Love watching your YouTube and uploads!
Keep it up. Will contact you when I need to adjust my 2019 KTM 690 SMC R
Thank you so much!! Dave and Dave 😄 I have personally gained so much insight into my bike especially suspension and tyres. My bike responds like a dream time and time again through dynamic adjustments. Resulting in a greatly improved riding experience. I look forward to every upcoming ride with a childlike glee in my heart. 😁😁😁
Get amongst it everyone, $60 or $100 is the best money you’ll spend setting your bike just for you! Dave’s experience, knowledge and advice is amazing!
The site content and videos are more than helpful - just plain entertaining. I also enjoy your choice of background music - "Healing Sixes". Wade Parish is the drummer and ex-WERA racer and friend.
PS - thanks for the "Remote Tuning" tire wear responses on text messages
Thank you very much for a very informative website. I am reading and learning new things everyday thanks to you.
Been watching your videos find them superb I was wondering if you ever come to the UK for sessions?
After contacting your good self and a few others in 2018 about training courses in the UK, I went along and did a 4 day course with Reactive suspension if February 2019.The Course went well and reinforced and increased my already wide knowledge base "its always reassuring that what has been learned through independent learning is correct from someone who has greater experience and knowledge."
During this time I had been watching a YouTube vlogger Graham Calvert on his channel titled Adventure's with Woody. The channel is based on a 250 Sinnis Apache and Graham traveling around the wolds of East riding and North Yorkshire on roads less traveled. His other stead is the GSX750F affectionately called Tetley the teapot : S
Watching Graham on Tetely was a frightening experience and analyzing the footage it became very clear very quickly that his suspension was in desperate need of servicing and setting up as the bike was literary unrideable.
I emailed Graham and at first I was dismissed as a keyboard warrior just angling for something, although I did not know this at the time and I heard no response. I again emailed Graham after watching him riding this great bike that was in desperate need of attention and dangerous to my mind. I outlined what I suspected was wrong, how it could easily be corrected and that I would do this free of charge, because I can.
So In February 2019 I went and did the course and the day after traveled across from Huby to Beverley to start work on the GSX750F. Graham obviously being a vlogger documented the servicing and through watching and asking a myriad of questions learned a great deal.
The conditions for the servicing were not the best but you do get a mention from Graham, as I had pointed him towards your videos as reference.
I don't think the shock had ever been touch since new, and the forks may have been serviced once because the bushings were like new but the goop that came out of the forks looked more like chicken soup. A few weeks later due to time constraints and the fact that the bearings in the lower lever link were shot, I returned to set the bike up and do a few other maintenance jobs. The bike was instantly 100 times better and I can say that Graham is a very happy man.
Later in May 2019 Graham and a friend did a trip to Scotland to do the NC500. On the way back he states that the weather was abysmal, rain so hard you could barely see but due to the sudden illness of the friends wife they battled on homeward and on a couple of occasions Graham said he felt the bike slip and that if I had not of done the work on the suspension and pointed out the damage to his tyres and bearings he would of not made it home. The results speak for themselves.
And that's where that ends. Needless to say when I get the opportunity, I speak to the biking community about their bikes and suspensions but it is like trying to crack a coconut with a feather!
You Tube comments
I did a dump and run and followed the last video to a T and now my R6 rides over bumps so much nicer and nowhere near as harsh. Thanks Dave!
Wayne Boyd commented:
Excellent video, thanks for bringing all the incredible content and knowledge to YouTube.
Thank you for teaching people and putting information out there to educate. And your will to pass on knowledge, why something acts the way it does. With kind regards....
Hi Dave, firstly I’d like to say thanks for the videos you post onto YouTube I’ve watched most of them in my quest for knowledge when it comes to suspension tuning, I still have no idea what I’m doing tho! Hope you’ve had a good Christmas and have a great new year.
What an awesome level of information to bring to youtube, thankyou for sharing this, I just learned more about suspension in 25 minutes than I think I have in 25 years, obviously not looking into it as much as I should....I read the book with my bikes and setup as directed but understanding isn't provided in the books, just instructional how to's
Amazing, wish he could set up my bike. It's like a dark Science.
Mustafa Khalili commented:
"Hi Dave Merry Xmas! Thanks for these extremely valuable videos ... any plans to visit the UK, we need you?"
I love your channel and I think you are on top of your game!
Damn this guy can do a lot of suspension!
McQueen Francis commented:
Dave, fabulous teachings... Thank you.
Best video about suspension ever! Just need to watch is 5 times to see what to make on my mt10. If You ever come to Italy or Austria, ill be there to set my bike too.
Thank you so much for this. Using your video I was able to write a small cheat sheet to use at the track. Hopefully when the weather warms up here in Scotland I'll be able to put this into use. Thank you.
McQueen Francis commented:
Straight forward, and, superb simplicity in explanation in your education again... spoken truly. Thank you Mr, D Moss... blessing to you sir.
Frank Boase commented:
Yeah, the Sherlock Holmes of biking, I'm amazed that so much can be read from tyre wear.
Brando Loudly commented:
Do all my own work on my r6. Your channel has taught me so much about suspension. You guys are gems keep it up.
ῼ ῼ commented:
Damn u doing a damn Good Job!
dave g commented:
Love how he know what he’s talking about, wish I met him when I was young and thought I could ride
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. (as I do all DMTvids) Watching a Guru working is the absolute best thing.
Thanks, awesome video Dave. Had no idea all that was required to restore a bike correctly after a crash.
Stinker doodle commented:
Dave I just watched a video on how to set rebound on your bike and I was cringing the whole time it was very bad and made me thankful that you do the work you do giving the correct
You are the best teacher out there. You have the best techniques translating info to others. I really enjoy learning from you. Thanks so much!
Even after 4 decades racing , now doing track days (now I'm an old man lol) I'm still learning a lot VIA the science you're providing trough out your channel. i wish you a great 2020 year MR MOSS. your videos comfort me into my beliefs that the suspension and tires are the most crucial parts for safe and fast lap times.
Just listening to how he talks I begin to understand suspension. That's what it is to really know what the hell you're doing. Top level tuner fight there."
Great content and great explanation! I wonder how and why this can be done without taking the drivers weight into consideration, or am I getting this wrong? Are you ever coming to Germany? Would love to see you adjusting my 08 gsxr 600
Ian Lawrie commented:
Phenomenal sir! I thought "conjurer" when the high temp grease vanished, then the "stickage" went away, wonderful.
I love your channel. Most interesting stuff to the motorcycle greenhorn me, who might end up owning the remains of a GSX-R 750W soon-ish.
Your videos are awesome, just subscribed.
So happy to have found your channel. Hate to admit it but I've put 50K miles on my FZ8 without realizing it's almost fully adjustable suspension. Playing with it after watching your videos it feels like a new bike. Thanks man!
I love to meet you in person sir...what you give to him, exactly what I’m really need to improve my riding skill. Done subscribed.
Excellent video Dave. Thanks for all your help and education over the years, truly priceless!
Very informative video's Dave. Great stuff.
I'm a DMT member. First of all, I love being a member of this community because I've learned lots of useful information to improve my riding and save my life. Thanks very much for all this content.
Thank you for all the great content. It has been very helpfull to read and watch the articles and videos on your website. The articles on Sag helped me discover that my Triumph Speed Triple had a totally wrong rear spring on its Ohlins TTX shock.(Yamaha R6 spring, to soft and to short) Changing it to the correct spring (for the bike and my weight) totally changed the bike.
Love to see the podcasts on Spotify one day!
Greetings from Texas!
1st off, I have seen several of your videos, and I must say, you are extremely knowledgeable in your profession. You are an inspiration to the entire motorcycle world. Thank you for what you do!
The DMT class was worth every penny! Really appreciate you coming down. Do you ever come down to Chuckwalla? It would be great to do a track day and have you there.
Awesome video as always Dave - can't thank you enough for sharing your vast knowledge with, literally, the world.
Thank you so much for all of your incredible videos Dave.
The more videos from you I watch, I am starting to understand more about what I am feeling on different motorcycles and why. Thanks Dave.
Hi Dave. Thank you for sharing information! It helps me to understand, how the suspension works and what changes does it takes to go faster. I ride 60% of time at gymkhana, 20% training at gokart track(no big tracks near 1500km) and 20% at street.
Well done. My faith in humanity is restored. I have seen so many mechanics who just don't know even the basics.
BRKK47 commented: "Thank you for the life of Brian reference. +2 cool guy points!"
F that guy moss knows his business like no others.......I'd so like to be able to ''rent'' his suspension services for a whole race week end...I feel I would learn a whole galaxy worth of suspension science.
Pete Curran commented:
"Great stuff Dave - the whole suspension thing is a fascinating subject! 👍🏻🛠"
This fall I had the opportunity to ride a friend of mine's 2016 KTM Super Duke 1290 R. He went on vacation and left it in my garage for safe keeping.
The first time I took it out was the way he had set the bike up using some guidelines found on a web forum. Needless to say it was dangerous! It wouldn't hold a line and was bucking uncontrollably in the rear throughout corners.
I took it back home and out came the wrenches. I pretty much went down Dave's checklist from top to bottom: tire pressure, sag, compression, rebound, lever and bar position, etc. Needless to say it transformed the bike. It was now effortless going into corners and super confidence inspiring. I was pleased and very interested to see what the bike's owner thought.
When he returned from vacation I told him to ride it as it was and give me some feedback. I got a phone call the next day from him while he was mid ride. His words were, "What did you do? I can't believe this is the same bike. It rides so much better."
I told him the process I went through and that we can tweak it even more as we examine tire wear. I think he now understands how much the little things can make a huge difference.
Thanks Dave for setting up my bike at the track and for passing on some of the knowledge so that I can help others get the most from their bikes.
Yesterday, 11:42 PMDave Moss
I don't have a picture, so it's all good if I can't enter the contest. I'm more concerned with letting you know that I find your content very helpful, and appreciate using your knowledge as a resource. Contest or no, I'm going to get one of your T-shirts soon.
I'll talk motorcycle suspension and tires with anyone who will listen. In those conversations, your name always comes up.
I am going to do some track days in the spring, and wanted to replace my brake pads with something a little more track appropriate. I watched your video "Setting Motorcycle Brake Calipers" and was glad I did. The method of leaving the caliper bolts a little loose, and snugging them down while holding the brake worked like a champ!! I would not have thought to do that otherwise.
You helped me with a fork set-up issue a couple months ago, and that nudge in the right direction helped a lot. I've got a Penske triple shock on the rear now, and looking forward to dialing that in.
I've read some books on suspension, but your videos provide the visual information that books don't. All that to say, I'm excited rather than dreading working on the set-up on my bike.
Take care & thanks,
Thanks for your info during the year. It has been very helpful getting the most from my RSV4 RF and from the tires more importantly, which if you keep getting it wrong will eventually cost you more than the bike.
Fortunately I am in the southern hemisphere of the world Brisbane Australia and at the moment are experiencing track temps of 60 c so the tire info has been good for my V02 Bridgestones.
It is a sole track bike and hadn't fired a shot for 12 months but I have got back on track now and managed 3 track days in the last 2 months with a few more over the Xmas break. I haven't actually helped anybody as yet at the track but have passed your info onto them.
Have a good Xmas and may you get some nice new toys to play with in the future.
Firstly, I would like to thank you for sharing your wealth of suspension and tyre wear knowledge.
It has helped me gain the confidence to set up my own track bike, and keep adjusting in between sessions to find the right set up for any given day and riding conditions. I have found that even my own mood for the day effects my set up!! 😊
Paying it forward:
I was at a track day recently and one of the riders in my garage was saying how scary some of the corners were, especially one known as MG Corner at Phillip Island Raceway Australia. It is a fast blind left hander over the crest of a hill. I asked him what he found to be the most scary part of that corner. He said that the front seemed to pogo around and he couldn’t hold his line, and the back was trying to pass the front under brakes. (It is a hard braking area on a steep downhill into a right hairpin) I asked him if I could have a look at his bike and make some adjustments. He said yes.
I found that his front was way too soft. It was bouncing over the top at least 3-4 times and had virtually no compression. I than checked the rear and found a similar situation. It had virtually no compression, and was so mismatched from the front it wasn’t funny. I didn’t have the tools to check and adjust his static and rider sag, so I just went with some clicker adjustments and my ‘average version’ of the seat bounce to try and balance the front to the rear!
He went out for another session and I told him to just take it easy and settle in before trying to push anything, you know, get used to the new set up as it should be way different!
When he came back into the pits, he quickly took his helmet off and was looking around like he was desperately trying to find me. I was a bit apprehensive at first! 😊 He ran over and hugged me! Lifted me off the ground and said “thank you, thank you, thank you……it was amazing, a totally different bike”.
His confidence went up, his times went down, and he said if he felt the best he ever has on the bike.
I told him to take it to a shop and get the shocks serviced, and get the static and rider sag set and try again! I also told him that now he is getting more confidence, the side effect is speed, and that the current suspension settings will become obsolete quite quickly and he will need to make more adjustments.
I also told him to google Dave Moss and learn more for himself.
He was a slow group rider who now had the confidence to push a little harder but now do it safely, and possibly go up a group.
It was a cathartic experience.
It is a dangerous sport that we do, and any help, advice or knowledge that can make someone a safer rider should always be shared. The more educated we become as riders the less likely we are to take bad advice, and the more likely we are to have safe operating machinery under our bums! We are a community that should be compelled to look after our brothers and sisters.
No exaggeration, bike riding skills, maintenance and set up, is life and death.
Once again, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Here’s to paying it forward!
At COTA - last session having at an HP4. He never got away from me on my RZ500.
You and I discussed riding old two strokes and the issue with making them competitive and reliable. I am on several forums and the one in particular RZ500 forum, is where a lot of people can make mistakes. They purchase a mid 80s or older bike and want it to go fast and look good.
The thing I have tried to help people with is suspension setup. Your knowledge and videos gave me the confidence to take on my own RZ500 and convert it to a competitive track bike. It is not fast enough in a straight line for top level track groups but will run with anything mid tier. HP4 Race. Ducati Pannigalli V4.
I have found what works and have tried to pass the knowledge you have taught to me. You can not take a twindly old frame and put super stiff R1 forks and expect it to handle. Can possibly brake the frame or bend it if ridden hard enough. New frames are super strong.
Or take an old chassis with 18 inch wheels and put modern rubber on it. Then expect it to handle good. People do not understand modern frame geometry. You turn the bike into a cruiser.
I hate to see fellow enthusiasts go down the wrong path because they saw it in a picture or read about it on the web. Then they spend good money on something that someone else said they did.
Do your research and be patient. There is a lot of good info on the web but be sure they are confident before dumping hard earned money down the rabbit hole.
You have saved me from having an expensive trailer queen by saving a lot of potential mistakes.
Have a great Christmas. Thanks for all the great content because I would have never had the confidence to do it myself. And lastly I hope you get a ride next year do the Australian race next month.
You are the best. Thanks
I subscribed to DMT site and after watching this Comparison Test: V4S vs RSV4 1100 Factory I can say that this is the most informative review I've ever experienced.
Technically so comprehensive with so much useful information that would help everyone that's in the market for buying one of these two motorcycles to make a choice based on their personal preference rather than marketing hype!
I want to by stating this isn't my first Ducati and isn't the first time I've had my suspension setup correctly on a bike. Both of these things matter and I'll explain why.
I've had roughly 10 motorcycles in my life. First one being a Smokin Joe edition f3,f4,f4i,rc51,748 w/998 motor,3 KTM's and a Husky 510 supermoto . Out of all them my husky was the only one properly setup to my weight and style. I had it done by some guy who was doing it at a meet in Sacramento. I use the word."setup" loosely. He wheeled my bike into a tent, which only the suspension guy and helper were allowed. Did it ride better? Yes, but I had no idea what was done.
This past Saturday I had the privilege to not only get my bike worked on but I was able to watch Dave Moss work his magic.
Bike after bike he took the time to explain to the owner what he was doing,why he was doing it and what the owner should do to further improve his bike. There were a lot of very different bikes requiring different adjustments and settings. After he would spent 10 to 15 minutes correcting the current setting, he would then send the owner out to ride.
Dave explained what to watch for and what he wanted the rider to feel. Then the rider would return, fill Dave in on what he experienced. Dave would adjust and send the rider out again .
Some bikes needed maybe one ride while I watched a few bikes get 3 and 4 adjustments. The result regardless of how trips was the same. A rider smiling and telling everyone how much better the ride was.
I bought my Hypermotard 821 as a 3rd owner. The previous owner had made his own adjustments and weighed about 25lbs less than me. I didn't have a lot of feedback for Dave on how bike behaved. After taking his measurements and checking things like sag,compression etc, he was able to tell me what my bike had been riding like.. Ok I'm impressed.
He measured, adjusted and explained every move he made. He took the time to explain the nature of the Hypermotard and how the adjustments he made were so different from 90% of the bikes there that day.
I left for my first ride. Immediately I felt planted. The twitchy steering was gone. I could turn in late and dive through the turn without feeling like I would drift. Back to back turns and it was just effortless. I ended up riding further than expected.
Dave made a couple more adjustments, changed tire pressure and set me out. I was going faster than before with more confidence. I felt safer.
After I got back and watched him continue to work his magic and explain every step I realized, this was my first true suspension setup. Anyone can wheel a bike into a tent and make changes. A true master can truly make a bike safer and explain every little step. I'll be making it a point from this point on to take every bike I own and every friend with a bike taken their bike to Dave.
First of all thank you for all the videos, I've only been riding for two and half years and have learnt so much from watching you set up bike after bike, and along with your on going commentary as you set the bikes up, its worth every penny of the subscription.
Kind regards, Garry
My bike is a 2012 Ducati Monster 696 with upgraded suspension from a Monster 1100s. Öhlins forks, single sided swing arm and Sachs Shock. All recently (300km) serviced.
Front has 15mm of travel left before bottom out and that's after aggressive canyon riding. Rear shock is similar.
Thank you for educating on tyre pressures and heat.
I love your videos, and if it wasn't for you, my bike would not handle as well as it does.
Love your work Dave
FYI: build details
100s front end, with Öhlins forks and upgraded master cylinders for brake and clutch.
796 single sided swing arm with the 1100s Sachs Shock.
796 rims with Michelin power RS rubber.
Rapid Bike Evo with custom dyno tune.
Cordona quick shifter.
Metal tech rear sets with carbon heal guards.
Carbon front and rear hugger and fuel tank surround.
I have a 2009 Yamaha R1 and recently had the chance to have Dave Moss help me set up my suspension. Working with him is super easy and straight to the point.
My bike has completely stock suspension and after I installed the settings Dave Moss sent me I Immediately notice huge differences. I honestly didn’t think I would notice these small easy adjustments at all but as soon as I hopped on for the first ride, before I even left I noticed how much stiffer everything felt.
Riding it was a whole new experience.
The bike felt so much more planted and stable in every aspect. Even straight line acceleration. It’s incredible how such a small adjustment can make you feel so much more confident as a rider.
To anyone on the fence about consulting Dave, definitely do it, I promise it will make you a more comfortable, faster and safer rider.
Thank you so very much for your help. I’ve tested your suggested settings a lot now, and the first settings are the ones that feels the best for my riding.
I’ve since I got your email changed tires to M7RR’s, they seem to perform very well at 36 psi (street riding and it’s cold here in Sweden now, about 5-8 C).
I think I will book a remote tuning when summer is here to fine tune it a little bit better, I think there’s more to get from the suspension.
Have a great weekend,
Thank you for your knowledge!
I’ve set the bike up as discussed and it’s fantastic. The rear shock rebound dampening is set at 2 turns out as I found 1/4 turn was really restrictive.
Other than that it’s a very different machine. I though it was in need of a steering dampner, but after the adjustments... all settled.
My original settings were all over the place... like if someone on the showroom floor was fiddling. I’ve own the bike from new.
Thank you again Dave .
Just wanted to follow-up on the suspension tuning of my Ducati Supersport S that you did at last week's Facebook event. The bike already felt quite a bit better on the ride home from FB!
We talked about a couple of modifications I should have done to the bike:
1. Stiffer front fork springs. I think you recommend 0.95s; I believe the stock springs are 0.80kg/mm
2. Switch to Ohlins 10wt fork oil in the rebound (right) fork leg; stick with 5wt fork oil in the compression (left) leg
As always, thanks for your help!
In any case, thank you again for setting up the Tuono, I was beating my head against the wall for months and I never would have thought to lengthen the rear shock.
If it wasn't for your videos. I might be dead by now for how I ride and if I never was made to think about weight ranges for springs and valving to control them + the bike/rider weight..
Had the chance to take some measurements.
At current settings I was measuring in at 25.4 mm of rider suspension sag.
After adjusting the rebound to 1 turn, it read 38.1 mm
Didn’t have the chance to get it out on the mountain but spent some time on 280 and high speed single bumps felt solid. The suspension reacted quickly and only got sent off the seat once for a very abrupt bump. On the uneven surface going 80mph it was soaking up well but still transferring a solid amount of of shaking into my body.
I think an important note is this is my first street bike and I’ve had it for about 3 months now. So I might not know exactly what “good” or “bad” suspension feel is like for a street bike. I just am able to note how it makes me feel while riding and what I’d like to achieve. I can send further notes after mountain testing.
The good news is I followed your settings and got the bike to handle better in corners and under braking!
I purchased my buddy's Husqvarna 250 and headed for the hills.
After struggling (and struggling) with the bike on trail, I asked Dave to come take a look at my maybe stock maybe something else setup.
Dave spent about an hour running through the shock, fork and overall ergonomics while getting the background on my riding ability and planned next rides.
Afterwards, the bike’s response and handling was unrecognizable — felt like a whole new machine. I went from fighting the bike to just riding and having a blast! Thanks again to Dave for his expertise and advice.
The bike now feels a lot better!! I took the long route home and the compression adjustment you made on the front fork works quite well. Its quite noticeable during tight sections and stop and go traffic.
Over the next few weeks, I intend to get the fork oil and rear spring changed.
Thank you Kindly David for your time and advice which in itself today is a very much overlooked and neglected trait.. RE: My rear suspension is very similarly sprung to the front so they tend to bear an equal load.
For now I will settle for the stiffer ride due to lack of finances as I'm a pensioner who has given up ALL and Lord knows I've had a few Vices thus pay for my bike.
Most kind regards to you Sir and I shall continue to follow,and learn from you as well as promote you Extensive knowledge , understanding and experience relative to set up etc.
I have subscribe to your website and been watching your videos to get better understanding of suspension setup!
Tires ordered!!! Clickers set, took a 10 mile ride in town and I could already feel the difference. Clickers were way off, even the forks were set different from each other. Again Thank you
Ok new tires are on, suspension set as per you. Took it on a shakedown run on hwy 36 today. It did awesome! Took it a bit easy due to brand new tires but it performed great! Thank you for your help
First and foremost thank you so much for providing the content, insight and expertise that you do!
As a new rider I truly appreciate it.
I just wanted to reach out cause I am at witts end in trying to understand how to properly set up my bike for my ability level. I would like to schedule if possible a 1 on 1 consulting skype session with you if you can let me know your availability next week.
Let me know how to go about setting up an appointment with you I would love to next week when I get the bike back with the other rear shock installed so I can adjust the preload if necessary, if there is anything you need in the interim I would gladly assist in any way I can thank you, you have no idea how much you are helping me to become a better self taught rider.
Yours in kind - Kyle Lee Lum
I've been watching your videos for a while now and decided to try adjust my suspension on GSX1400.(daily computer ).
I've been riding bikes on and off for the last 40 years and never adjusted anything before ( hard to get right and easy to get wrong). So with a tape measure and a zip tie I got to work and the bike is now a lot better and more comfortable to ride. Using your videos as a guide.
The front preload was to stiff and rebound to soft, back to soft , so stiffen the back lighten the preload on the front and screw in the rebound still trying to find the right compression but the bike is a hell of a lot better, it even seems to stop better on the front brake, although that might be because the front forks now have some travel in them.
Next I might tackle a fork oil change, So thanks for the video s and for giving blokes like me enough knowledge and confidence to give it ago themselves
Thank you Calvin Davis
Thanks for all the content.
I listen to a podcast you were on. Wow!....very impressed with what you had to said. So I subscribed for a year.
I never been without a bike since I was 5 years old....yet I have so much to learn from you.
I own a 2018 BMW R1200 GSA. I only ride on paved roads, never gravel or dirt.
I would like to prepare this winter as much as possible so when spring comes I can follow suit.
Thank you for all you do!
Best Of Day!
You helped me awhile back on my R3 with suspension issues all sorted now handles mega. Want to thank you for your feedback and your videos I have be learnt so much in 2 yrs amazing!
Are there articles or videos on geometry adjustments. ie: when do you raise the rear as opposed to lowering the front? I would like to understand more on this subject.
After subscribing to the premium membership my bike is safer and easier to ride,but best of all I now have information that will stay with me for the rest of my riding life.
Somehow thank you does not seem enough.
Just bought a ZZR 1400, so enjoyed your video on the 18 one. The rider who had this one before me was a much bigger man so I am going to have to get it re sprung. I have static sag in the rear but not enough rider sag.
I have helped out some friends due to following you and your content and I am learning all the time. Geometry is something I would like to know more about.
Thanks Dave for your amazing contribution to the world of motorcycles!
Recently signed up to a premium account... worth every penny of it.
Thank you so much for your patience and for finding a way to make what you do accessible to many people.
Your 2018 Panigale V4S Suspension Eval video has brought a lot more comfort and confidence with me dealing with my own V4S.
Moreover, many of your other videos have provided great ergo details which have helped out crafting a better riding position. In short, thank you.
I'm Terry, the tall guy with the silver hair, silver beard, silver Aprilia Futura rst100 and silver leather suit at the recent Proitalia session, of which I purchased two of on that rainy Saturday!
Well matched with front. I got 40mm rider sag. 35mm before bottom out.
My Ducati Streetfighter hasn’t felt right in a long time. The last 5-6 rides had me doubting my skills - “am I losing it??”.
After having Dave Moss set up my Streetfighter 848 at Thunderhill yesterday, I ran it out to the bridge today for a shakedown with the boys around Lake Berryessa.
Prior to today, she simply was not turning in and I was fighting her at every corner.
Well, as expected... Dave FIXED it. Telepathic is a word I’ve used before to describe how my bikes feel after the Dave Moss effect. Today was no different. I feel like the the old me again.
After a few days and some miles I have noticed two maybe three differences. Before I get into that I'll tell you how much adjusting I had to do to meet your recommendations.
Forks preload was already adjusted well but I believe 5 out is a little more preload than I had before. Rebound was maxed out now backed off 4 clicks.
Rear preload was maxed out and rebound exactly what you had recommended.
1. High speed handlebar wobble gone. I almost thought I needed a damper. Don't know if your changes could have helped but wobble seems to have gone away.
2. Seem to be able do steer it where I want to easier. Before I was wide without a lot of effort now it seems easier.
3. Takes bumps easier but again I had that fork preload maxed.
Oh one more thing, right before adjustments I felt like the front tire was sliding on moderate intersection turns but that's gone. Road debris?
I wish I could get on a track and really get a good feel but so far so good. Going to do a 2 up ride up a fun road here (yarnell hill) soon that I've done before. I'm sure it will be better this go around.
Thanks again. Dave, I'll tell all I can about your service. Its rare I meet a biker who actually touches the suspension adjustments and I don't understand.
Just a belated update. I have adjusted the suspension to your settings and what a difference!
The dealer would not adjust the rear spring so I am having a "C" spanner made to do the job myself. For your reference they did adjust the rear shock for track and the bike lost that planted feel on the back so I have reset back to your setting!
In the meantime I was going to experiment with your tyre pressure settings or would you suggest I wait until I have adjusted the spring?
I have to say the bike is so much better to ride and has not lost any of that feel and sweet handling and I also keep my fillings! Thank you for your advise so far and I will update you after the rear spring has been adjusted.
I’ve made the adjustments to my front and rear suspension settings.
I was specially surprised for how much I had to change the front, I think it was about 3 turns out counter clockwise, now wonder why I was bottoming the front on hard braking.
The rear shock was showing about 5 threads, so it was a little less to adjust there to show only 3 threads, this and a couple of psi’s might also help my rear tire wear as it was showing some hot tear.
I’ve also adjusted the clicks for comp/rebound as per instructions, my next track day is in a couple of weeks, then I’ll try the feeling and provide feedback.
I finally got to ride the new setup, it definitely felt more planted on turns and more stable while braking, here are some pictures of the zip tie and tire wear!
Just want to say thank you again for getting us all dialed last night!!
My bike (Red Supersport with Green LED's inside) is a completely new machine now and I am so grateful for the adjustments you made.
There are certain areas that I always brace for during my morning commute (harsh bumps or changes in the road) and this morning, the bike surfed over it all with ease!!!
I am SO happy!!!
Thank you Dave!!
G-d bless you.
Dear Mr. Moss,
Thank you for your informative email which contained valuable information that allowed me to achieve a faster lap time by one second!
Hello Dave Sir
I am very much thankful to you sir .
Went on a ride this Sunday and I found the suspension to be bit stiff but I love the handling of the bike can now take corners easily and feel confident while riding at high speeds .
Thank you very much sir .
Jesal Sagar .
From New Zealand we both thank you for improving our riding experience. Sorry I missed you in Auckland. Thanks for all the help with your videos and messages.
The bike is awesome handles like it's on rails. I ride with a lot of younger riders and have helped with setup on there bikes, static sag, rider sag etc.
Thanks a heap I've passed on what you've taught and thank you.
I took it to the local short track for a quick ride today and got the tire wear result in attached photo. Tire pressure was 33psi both front and rear. Forgot to check the front fork zip tie though...
In one year, I have done damper rod, BPF, and now a classic cartridge fork.
Once my bike returned from Wheelers Motorcycle Shop with correct springs for my weight, I took it straight to Dave Moss. That feeling after I attended my first track day (had previously done about 5 on my old suspension) after my fresh new setup was phenomenal. My confidence was sky rocketing. I felt relieved. All the struggling and fighting my bike I had gone. It wasn’t an issue anymore. I was maintaining a better tire grip. I was able to focus more on my body positioning and it had improved tremendously. I was able to go faster. I trusted my bike to work with me and not against me. It worked so well with me that I received the intermediate bump that following track day.
I wanted to let you know that I was able to react and avoid hitting a deer this morning in a much faster way than I could in the past.
It is my belief that it was in part due to you helping me with the proper angle of the levers in relation to my arms, hands, and fingers. I was braking and reacting quicker than I could process "oh crap a deer is in front of me".
So, I wanted to give you some credit for that and to thank you again. An unexpected but welcomed added benefit of your time, advice, and guidance.
G'day again Dave,
Wow! Thank you so much for the (speedy!) reply. You must be a very busy man and I do very much appreciate your reply.
Thank you for clearing up the setting up of suspension for me, I was on the right track however I wasn't aware of the "set up the rear first" point. (It makes total sense of course.) Thanks also for your advice re: my forks, this too was along the lines I was thinking but your detailed info is superb and reassured me that this process would be a good preliminary step.
I am very grateful for the video link to Jason "1 Armed Bandit" Lopez, I see he has a similar setup to me with the twin levers, and it was inspiring to see the approach he took with regards to bike choice! I have not considered using a dirt-bike but this has opened my eyes and brought a new level of excitement to my way of thinking about riding!
I'm thinking my next project may well be to convert a 600cc traily into a "super moto". Well Dave, thank you for your fantastic response, you have clarified and given me much to consider, answered my questions (above and beyond) and increased my levels of passion for riding even more!
Your reply has truly made my day. I can't express how grateful I am for your help. You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Best wishes, Keep the rubber on the Tarmac. Sean.
My name is Marcel and I'm from Germany.
I'm a member for one month now and so glad to have all this great information!
There is so much information on the internet which is often very misleading.
At first I want to thank you for doing this! So I could not be happier to have a whole lot of tips from you which are very well explained!
Dave thanks again for your expertise. Got a class bump yesterday at New Jersey Motorsport Park , and the tires look better after adjusting the pressures to your spec!
Yoooo man I just got home from riding with your setup. The bike is soooo much better now. Thank you Dave. I’m full of gratitude for your help I really appreciate.
Please translate all the good comments from my customers with their suspension tuning.
I tuned about 200 bikes so far this summer with a 100% satisfaction. I am now the reference for suspension tuning in Quebec Canada in the Greater Montreal and beyond.
Thanks to you for that.
My best regards
Barbee Racing Suspension
No matter how many times Dave Moss has adjusted my bikes over the course of a dozen years, his gracious talent never ceases to amaze me...
He took a “functioning” suspension and transformed it into another telepathic magic machine - an extension of me, if you will. I put almost 1600 miles on the stock factory setting and felt I was smooth and quick enough with little drama on the Scrambler... then DMT happens and I feel like a total neophyte.
And just like that, the Sled is transformed completely. No longer rough in the small bumps nor squatting dramatically accelerating mid-corner. The $40 I spent added $1M in confidence as a rider. No different from the countless times before today. Thanks, Dave!
Your are very gifted with the work you do! I cant express to how much of a change you did to two of my buddy's bikes that I have rode!
Although I will try to find them, words just cannot express what an incredible weekend we had attending the 2019 Women’s Sportbike Rally at the Iron Horse Motorcycle Lodge.
Seeing as I am the only female Sportbike rider in Henderson County (that I know of) it was such a unique experience to meet so many strong lady riders.
Brittany Morrow and her team did a fantastic job putting it all together. So much hard work goes into planning an event of this size, I just want you all to know how grateful we are for all of your hard work and dedication to WSR.
The highlight of the weekend for me was having Starfire 🌟 🔥 custom tuned to me specifically by the suspension god himself Dave Moss. I am already looking forward to next year!
Hi Mr. Moss,
I just stumbled onto your videos and web site yesterday and I consider that a very lucky thing. I watched a ton of your videos yesterday and signed up for your premium service without hesitation.
I am 50 and I have a 2011 GSX-R750, first sport bike, second bike ever (2001 XLH1200 Harley Sportster) and the previous owner had screwed the suspension up royally. Maybe that is how I bought a cherry 2011 sub 10000 miles for five grand that only needed tires.
I have done a good bit of performance and aesthetic mods and have been pretty happy chalking unfamiliar issues up to a lack of experience, but after checking just rear free sag, I have found my problems and you have provided the solution. There isn't any free sag and I can only just get any sag at all pressing down with both hands very hard. Yes, "second kid on the trampoline" for certain, very simple, clear, accurate and clever of you!
When I have the chance I plan on conquering my sad issues then on to figuring out my compression and rebound needs. For now everything is back to factory except the rear pre-load. I will probably never get on a track, though I would like to someday, and I live in middle of nowhere Texas so the likely hood of ever getting to meet you, have you look at and improve my bike and give you a proper thanks in person, please consider this a digital handshake of respect and a sincere thank you!
Keep Calm and Ride On!
I want to say thank you so vey much for your help this last race season. All of your advice as well as the changes you made to my suspension were a huge help. All of it allowed me to feel more comfortable on my bike, and there by allowing me to do the best I possibly could without the restrictions of uncertainty.
It was a great pleasure getting to know with you and even ride with you. I hope your next season turns out to be as fruitful as the last. Congratulations on your achievement.
Moreover, thank you so very much for your kindness.
Hey Dave -
The Monster is significantly more stable with your settings. Thank you your help.
It still has some "resistance" to turning in but I'm thinking it may be a function more of where my body weight is on this bike rather than any suspension setting per se.
Maybe I'll consider slightly flatter bars to put a bit more weight on the front end. But the suspension is working better, no doubt.
After watching a number of your videos I finally got up the confidence to stiffen up my pre load. My bike (ktm 790) is transformed! I’m a heavy guy and didn’t even expect the benefits I’ve got.
The bike feels safer, especially in the wet, tracks better, especially at speed and corners so much better it’s not funny.
I used to have big problems with running wide in corners so would need to slow it right down. Now the bike feels to track way better on its line and feels a lot more stable!
Thank you so much 🙂
Question: how do I know if I’ve done enough? Should I go shorter? Where is the point where it doesn’t improve things any further?
Thanks again, I’m so pleased
I want to thank you for the time you spent with me at Area 27 Sunday Aug 20.
I have been building bikes for 40 years + and learned more about suspension in one day with you than all my time previous.
Also my Diavel got faster after every tuning session . Looking forward to spending time with you again when I have my 1198 Track bike back together this fall !
All the best YOU are the man !! Ciao Stephano
You're correct stock settings don't work for me. Thanx Dave, (Remote Tuning) - it works out really well!
Thanks for all the help via remote tuning! I am the fastest 600 in Lithuania!
Just want to say “thank you”.
Good ride, today - lots of experimenting. The Dynamic / Dynamic setting with one helmet, seems to be the best. I rode with a back case, today, which I usually only put on for my wife. I included a few fotos. Rear tire seemed to have nice, clean and smooth rubber on the other edges (foto taken after I was on a short piece of country road - little “dirty”). I used to race Karts 45 years ago - slicks looked like my tire, today. Felt good. The foto of the front shock was at a softer setting and it felt "blah". Roads were twisty. I’ll keep playing with it. Changed my clutch and brake handles to be more ergonomic and comfortable. Tire pressures are next on my list - maybe tomorrow if the wife is OK with it.
As a side note, you do a great job on your instructional videos. I would imagine there are a lot of BWN guys out there that don’t have a clue about electronic suspensions. Might be a video for one day in the future.
If you are every in the NY / NJ area doing a class, pls advise. Like to learn from the master.
Thank you, again.
Thanks for helping me with my suspension. I just beat my fastest race time @ T-Hill doing a track day. You the man.
Thank you for your videos on the importance of rear sag. My R1 08 has Ohlins TTX and the rear had hardly any rear static sag. I am running a heavy spring as well, so the bike was very jittery at the back. I backed off the preload until I achieved 10mm of rear static sag and my rider sag was around 32mm.
I also discovered that having the right rear static sag, allowed for proper adjustment of the front rebound too. When I had hardly any rear static sag, the rebound of the front forks was "fighting" the rear.
Now, with rear static sag of 10mm, I am able to bounce the front forks and correctly determine where the clickers should be at. I am currently 13 clicks out on the front forks, which does over steer slightly, but it gives me more confidence. When I close it up by one click (12), it is perfect, but I have less confidence in street cornering.
I have been keeping a journal as you recommend and for the last 3 weeks have been learning a lot. Many thanks for your videos and wonderful knowledge!
I only got to try out the first set of settings before I had a low side, but much much improved! Thanks a lot!
Won’t have the bike back together for a few weeks, so in interim I’ll be piloting my 2016 RSV4 RF. I’d like to get some settings and plan for this, as I have another track day this weekend.
I’ll send over the info and some pictures when I get a chance.
Your info and settings worked wonders, and I have been suggesting you to some of my buddies in the paddock.
I commend you for how much free content you've shared over the many years and how free and open you are about your techniques and explanations (many of not all "pro" tuners rarely share any of their secrets). I took the plunge and subscribed recently and it's moved on my learning to the next level. So thanks for that.
It's still brilliant though so no biggie.
Your "pay it forward" mantra of learning and then passing it on is something I'm trying to do within my circle of riding mates and family.
Keep up the awesome work and please, please make a trip back to the UK some time to do a seminar or something! Please! 😉
I'm gonna wait till I've got more data to share with you on my 2017 SV650 (photos of tyre wear, sag and hydraulic setting's,etc) but I plan on booking one of your online one to one discussions in the near future to properly pick your brains on some specific areas.
Cheers again dude.
I'm truly impressed by your know how, something that remains quite mysterious to me even after 10 years at the track...
So I went premium and I must say I don’t regret it!
I focused first on the front wheel as I was suffering from huge chattering in heavy braking since I went for Michelin EVO tyres.
Thanks to your « braking lines » video I finally managed to understand it was a tyre’s pressure issue (joining lines); 0.15 bars more and it disappeared 😄 (in fact it’s still there when I grab the lever but vanishes when I squash it).
Thank you again, keep posting,
Hey mate the bike was better thank you!!!!!!
I know many of us learnt a great deal from him over the course of the week myself especially turning the voodoo of bike setup into a logical process to work through is an amazing thing.
Dave Moss. Well worth the money. He’s a magical tinkerer. Qualifying and two races later. You have one more day to utilize his services. Get onto him. He might be from Lancashire, but he knows stuff.
After setting my suspension using your guide lines, I found it no less than awesome.
The amount of feedback I was getting was superb I could feel the front forks extending on off camber corners it was brilliant.
Hi mate, Tom from Australia,
You helped tune my KTM 1290 super duke via email last week and now she is running sweet thanks!
Just wanted to leave some feedback on your recent gsx1000 video you done. Got near the end thinking I wasn't going to learn anything new and then bam free play in your cable clutch.
Love those little nuggets.
I would really enjoy if you done more videos just on certain parts of the bike like the one you done on chains.
Great job Dave cheers, hope all the Aussies in Darwin are looking after you.
A tire cant lie, as you say always. Still working to improve more and more and more.
You are part of my development.
Thank you Dave!
After your conversation in our pits about new riders not getting their suspension set right away, I wanted to share my experience.
I started riding in the novice group 2 months ago and didn't think I needed to have my suspension adjusted by you because I was just learning my motorcycle and the track.
I ride an Aprilia RSV4 RR and believed that the stock setup should be fine for my level of skill. After riding 2 sessions I decided to have you make some adjustments so I could see if there was a difference.
I had no idea that suspension tuning would change so much and make my track day so much more fun. The bike turned in better, hugged the track, and powered out of corners in a completely more predictable and comfortable manner. It felt so much better that I moved up from C to B group that day and am now running A group after about 6 track days total.
The only way to describe how suspension tuning has affected my riding is to talk about a leather racing suit that I got for free that was a little too tight. I didn't know any better, but it was restricting my movement on the bike, not letting me shift my weight easily, inhibiting my ability to turn into corners, and was unsafe to wear because the suit was not adjusted properly to fit me.
Getting my suspension tuned by you felt like when I bought a racing suit that was designed to fit me perfectly. It moved how I needed to move, didn't fight me in the corners, and let the bike move how it was supposed to on the racetrack.
DO NOT assume that your bike is set up "good enough".
I've followed bikes with weak setups and have video showing one rider run off the track and another slide out in front of me when you can see it was the bike bouncing in a corner instead of smoothly hugging the track like my bike does. Like a racing suit, your bike needs to fit YOU properly. Use the tools available to maximize your fun!
1-1 Coaching on track Thunderhill, July 2019
I wanted to thank you for the time you took for our 1:1 coaching at Thunderhill West this past weekend.
Having the debrief and commentary on the videos has given me a much better look at riding more efficient tighter lines to set up for the fastest part of the track. I was definitely missing the key component of using the slowest part of the corner to use more speed exiting and setting up for the areas I was losing time on the laps.
I see that I'm hanging on to the turn past the apex because of trying to rush the corner and being off line for the exits and next part.
I will be reviewing the videos several more time and was thinking that I am wearing out my rear tire significantly faster due to this desire to carry too much speed where I actually should be more conscious of getting the bike turned and pointed. I'll be in a much better position for my next visit to Thunderhill next month and appreciate you and the teaching you provided.
THANK YOU DAVE!
Hi Dave just a quick thank you message.
I have recently just seen your vids on you tube and wanted to say thank you for making them.
You have an exemplary amount of knowledge on motorbike set up and when I eventually get my bike back on the road I will remind myself to watch your videos.
A JOY TO WATCH A MASTER MAKING IT LOOK EASY.
Wauw, I’ve been riding about 2 weeks now with your recommended suspension settings and the difference is profound. The bike feels much more balanced, much easier to steer into a corner and holds it’s line without any further input from my side beyond getting it on its initial lean angle 🙂 A huge improvement over the setting I was using before!
Very happy with the way everything is working now and looking forward to spring already for the next track season!
Many thanks again and have a great day,
Good morning Dave,
My name is David and I met you last week at the Fun Track Dayz Laguna Seca ride. I had brought my old 99 CBR F4 with me and you were able to make it ride like a whole new bike with some adjustments. Just wanted to follow up and say thanks again for your help!
I am shopping for a replacement rear shock like you mentioned for the bike so hopefully by the next time we meet I won't have 20 year old suspension parts. Once I have the part I will contact Red Devil to have the suspension refreshed.
Thanks again, and have a great day!
I just wanted to thank you for the knowledge and the adjustments you made to my Diavel. It felt like a night and day difference with the 2 up riding and then when I rode solo! Amazing work you do!!
Hey Dave ,
Just wanted to give you a huge shout out my 2006 r6 that you tuned at Team BOC event at The Ridge in Shelton WA.
It's a night and day difference. I felt so planted after you tweaked it.
The round 3 was sort of depressing for me because no matter what I did, my best time was 2:18 which is not good. I had the turns I struggled in figured out, so they were not the cause. Depressive thoughts came since I estimated years of track days to even get on competitive novice level. Basically I needed a psych couch by Dave Moss trailer.
On Sunday at Motel 6 parking lot I met gentleman from Oregon who came for Cali Track $100 track day. We talked 2 hours bikes and I decided to stay. Best decision ever, since this track day turned into the best one ever.
In A group, track was less busy, and I started with goal of producing consistent lap times as Mike instructed me. By session two, I was doing 2:18-19 4 four laps in a row.
I was thinking of the next step, objective, and recalled you mentioned next one on one would be about acceleration out of corners. I set a goal of starting to accelerate immediately at Apex, either wot since bike is less hp, or bit less depending on variables. What a change that brought. Turn 3, I started taking much faster, you are right, it sticks! Lol But more importantly, for the rest of day, I was making 2:13-15 times consistently, felt like I was on top of the game, passing big bikes etc. What a huge result done by relatively small change in my riding!
I bottomed the front at the first turn in Hockenheim. More preload and compression?
Everybody here is telling me only more compression. 🤷♂️ Rather stick with your advise, worked perfect before. 😉
This one is for you. My first trophy.
First got to say, I love your theoretical and nicely explained videos!
Fairly new on the track, and been there only 5 times. 4 times on a Yamaha R1 RN12, but yesterday on my new bike, a Honda CBR1000RR SC59.
What a change and joy, but I think mostly because of your great guidance! I took some time to adjust the suspension before going to the track, and the rear tire had no flat spots 😉
Absolutely love the easy understanding explanation on the videos. Perfectly understandable fore a nerd like me 🤓
I was the guy with the 2005 GSXR1000 that you tuned at cycle gear Sacramento a few weeks ago, with the trampoline rear shock settings? It feels incredible now, it settles into your line and just carves...feels much more natural to corner than before.
I first met Dave around 2007 when I first started Wera Racing on a 2006 CBR 600RR. He tuned my bike the first year and in subsequent years if he was at a track day or race I would have him tune my bike. The bike always felt more comfortable or tire wear improved after changes he made. Dave’s knowledge of riding techniques, suspension tuning, and tire set-up helped me in too many ways to explain. After going back to graduate school, I rode very sporadically.
I recently bought a 2005 Kawasaki ZX-10. I haven’t owned a 1000 that I’ve taken to the track since 2005 so was a bit leery about taking it to Buttonwillow. The track day ended up being wet in the morning and dry in the afternoon, it was tricky. Dave tuned the suspension and tire pressures throughout the day. Every time Dave made changes the bike felt more confidence inspiring, on the brakes, mid-corner and on the gas. He even spotted early signs of cold tearing preventing increased tire wear.
I can’t say enough about Dave’s knowledge and expertise with suspension as well as riding technique. If you’re looking to improve your understanding of either of those, it’s time well spent.
Mark H. 2019
Dave I don't even know where to start.
Thank you for spending so much time with me on the BMW at WMRRA round 3. I was educated, encouraged and my bike worked fantastic.
We took home the win!
Hope to see you again in the future, and thank you again.
I subscribed to your website last year for the 1st time and all year the videos, information, and ease of use of site, never let me down.
I renewed my membership a couple weeks ago, to give back, for the info, and mainly because what you are doing helps out so many riders, myself included, frequently!!!
Yeah, anyone could just read about this stuff or pay someone to take care of it for them, and never grow as track/race rider. But the way you do it, explaining things how you do and present the importance, draws riders in, teaches, and keeps us safer for it.
People talk about being one with there motorcycle and I believe understanding the suspension is a huge part of becoming one with the bike, and I just wanna say thank you from the east coast, for everything you and Mr Williams do!!! I assure you I will be a life long follower of you's guy's platform!!!!👍
Dave Moss' Tuning guidance revolutionized the ride & handling of my ZXR C, on which I do about 8,000km each Southern Summer in New Zealand. The online learning resources are comprehensive & Dave is brought to NZ each year by ACC to coach at Shiny Side Up events & the Burt Munro Challenge. Highly recommended 🏍👍😎"
Hi Dave, it's Arran from the UK with the R1 which had issues cornering.
Bike is now handling great. I found o/s fork 2 mm higher in the yoke clamp and carried out your settings and the bike now glides round corners rather than feeling like its pushing out.
The rear has been a transformation as well with acceleration it now responding quicker and wanting to raise the front.
Currently at the isle of man tt but weather here is awful. Been over the mountain a few times and just full of smiles.... Thanks again
I could not find stiff enough springs so I had a pair made by local factory. It works so great right now. I am roughly 3-4 cm less of fork travel right now, not bottoming at all. Direction changes, rotations, turns etc. it is much more fun. Even harder braking is great at the front.Yet, my damping setup is almost the same, almost all the way closed. Revalving, then. Much painful problem is the rear end. I switched to better carburetor, it offers me great acceleration. Even sportbikes won't lose me. On the other hand I get to slightly higher speeds, I can do more of a Stop-and-go style of riding.
Front is great with harder braking but I can feel the rear is loose. Under acceleration, there is a feeling the rear collapses. I have a feeling (more than a feeling, tbh) my rear tire is wearing down faster than it should.
Even stiffer spring than I already have.
Similar damping setup, almost closed down.
The issue here is the most important race of this year, European Championship in France. I secured second place for myself!!!!!!!
It would not be possible without your help and all the information you provided!
During this past winter I took a stock 2010 ducati 1198 and prepped it for racing. Having almost no idea what I was doing, someone led me to Dave moss.
I contacted him and took his advice on how to set my suspension up. He told me what to buy and what to not waste my money on.
After everything was installed I contacted him again and he gave me exact rebound and compression for the bike based on my weight and skill level.
The bike rode amazing!
I continue to use Dave for any suspension questions and needs. I would highly recommend him if you’re in need of a knowledge person to get you set up and riding your bike to it’s full potential.
This is the stuff I sub for!
I appreciate so much that you are teaching the how and why and when of suspension geometry, components and setup. It's abundantly clear that in order to get the most from our bikes, we need to know how to listen to the feedback it gives us, depending on conditions (temperature, load, road surface), our ability, and how we're riding.
Of course, I can't say that I know much, but I've gained enough to dramatically improve the stability of my bikes which has done a *ton* to improve my confidence and reduce the fatigue from getting beat up by the road. I also feel much safer, knowing that any given high speed bump isn't going to deflect the front, or catapult me off the rear.
Thank you so much, Dave."
So I thought I would do a back to back ride and give a first person review of a Dave Moss suspension adjustment. I grabbed one of my bikes that I figured would be a challenge to adjust. A 2012 Yamaha XT1200Z Super Tenere Worldcrosser with 21500 miles on stock suspension. I started by reading the manual and adjusting the bike to my weight. I then ran the bike up Tiller Hwy pushing the bike as hard as I dare before taking to Dave Moss for a $60 adjustment. It took Dave about 10 minutes to do and off I went back to Tiller Hwy
Pre Dave Moss
After 1 hour sore ass. Bike feels unstable both front and rear. Entry thru mid corner feels vague. Not conference inspiring at speed. Helmet is all over the place. Hard to get eyes to focus on road.Bike feels unstable under hard braking. Difficult to hold a line.
Post Dave MossNo more sore ass. Bike feels very stable. Able to carry more speed into corner. Able to change lines mid corner and pick the throttle up sooner on exit. Bike feels much better on rough pavement. Helmet is stable with much faster vision acquisition on lines as well as obstacles. The bike could be improved with aftermarket suspension upgrades but is acceptable for most riding conditions.
Was it worth $60. Hell yes. The bike is a blast to ride now. Would recommend to anyone looking to improve their skills
Remote Tuning Experience
When I first saw him set up a bike, it blew my mind, checked geometry, suspension etc in just about 2 minutes.
Asked a few questions based on it and set the bike up.
When he was done, he showed how the front and the rear compress together and that the balance was achieved. I was comfortable right away and had decent pace.
Throughout the trackday, he checked the tyres and made a few adjustments. Finally we got the perfect setup and noted it down.
Also, he is always ready to help online. I’m attaching a photo of my tyres. Note that these tyres were used for 8 whole sessions - About 3 hours of track time in the super hot temperatures of around 44-45 degrees celsius!
Thank you very much indeed! I really appreciate your help and expertise via remote tuning. Thank you for all the information it is fantastic, now I'll have the bike working as it should, now it is up to me to make it behave properly.
All the best, Guilherme Elcadi
I just received a suspension tuning from Dave on my Ducati 959 Panigale via skype! What a great experience!! I learned so much and was more than happy to pay the bill.
Next step, get out and ride!!
I ride a 2012 CBR1000RR. My bike has previously been set up by Dave and for my level of riding (B group) does outstanding.
This weekend however, I rode in an environment that I wasn't used to:- cold track and cold temperatures. I run tire warmers and I was seeing my tire pressures drop by the end of the session. Dave wasn't at this track event, so I reached out to him for remote tuning assistance.
This is something Ive never done before, but Dave made it really easy by giving me clear instructions on what information he needed.
First thing he did was ensure that my tire warmers were working correctly. After a session, I sent Dave pictures of the tires, tire pressures at the start and finish, tire temperatures, and track temperature. I was instructed on the exact changes I needed to make to the bike. After the changes I went out on the track again and right away felt the improvement in the way my bike responded. I then followed up with Dave on the results of the changes.
This experience made my weekend! I was able to enjoy my time at the track and not worry about my setup. I cant thank Dave enough for this and I would definitely resort to remote tuning again if needed.
Still winter here in Canada...about 1-2 weeks away from riding season. I spent the winter watching ‘every’ video on the site. With my stack of notes I have so much more knowledge and am ready to use it this track season.
I will be doing a fork oil change on my ‘12 GSXR 600 track bike as soon as the special tools arrive.
I am having a lot of fun working on my own , ‘trash or treasure ‘ SV650. I have rebuilt the front suspension with your help and transformed the front brakes with an Accossato Master, SS lines, 929 Nissin Calipers with new seals and new Galfer Sintered pads. Really looking forward to riding it!
BUT I’m really excited to focus on the tire wear and tire pressure with suspension tweaks at the racetrack.
All three of my track ‘crew’ have subscribed to your website and the knowledge I have compared to last year is shocking. I am determined to get a nice , ‘sandy beach’ this year.
Thank you so much for creating your platform it has really broadened my overall understanding on the motorcycle.
How are you? Hope you are doing well. In Czech slowly starting the season, so finally have bike home from the dealer and made first ride. What a machine. I love that bike sooo much.
The setup from you works perfectly on braking (no diving), it sticks on bumps amazingly, but as the roads here has lots of wholes and are not so narrow I am facing to too many shocks. I did not try the original setup and my dealer told me, that this is very non-standard (the service guy is ex-racer) and have never seen this.
I would like to ask, if there is any tip for soften setup.
Thank you for your help. My thoughts are, that setup is very racing like, but I am beginner on standard streets.
I had a chance to ride today,. And I must say, it's night and day difference, the bike feels great!
All this time I've been riding my bike all wrong. It hits the curves much better than before, the only problem I'm having now, the rear shock seems stiff, the bumps are even rougher now. I think I need to try to set the sag on it, but other than that I'm very satisfied with these settings.. thank you so much!
Greetings from Germany and thanks again for your great work! I hope you put out a book or DVD some day.
I'm racing an bone stock 2010 R6 this year. I weigh 75 kilo without gear. After watching your R6 setting sag clip I put the rear ramp adjuster on 5 and 3 turns of preload on the fork. Zip tie is now on the tube too.
Before watching your videos
Good day Dave!
Hope all is well.. the suspension work you suggested sorted the sliding a lot.
I’m going to attach some pics of my tyres for you to assess. Just to get a feedback. A lot of people suggesting different suspension mods. But I prefer hearing the truth from the guru! Do let me know. Thanks!
Great to see you again even if you prolly don't remember me since the last time I did a track day was 5 or 6 years ago but you can't imagine how happy I was to see your trailer! As I get older I'm finally appreciating all the things I don't know and I'm a slow learner.
So, Hyper springs... I had a 450 lb/in in there and it turns out it was at 3.9" installed length or 1.1" preload which is 25.5mm vs the 8 you recommended! that tool over 10 full turns on the ring nut- yikes. That's what it took to get 40mm rider sag. The rear total travel is advertised at 150mm and 25% of that is 37.5mm. I'm not sure how important that is but with the current ride height it handles very good and I think I should preserve that?!
I just installed the 500 lb spring and with 8mm spring compression at full drop the rider sag becomes 60mm.
That is 20mm less rear ride height and I think I would want to preserver that to get the same geometry. I can achieve that with adjusting the ride height adjuster or adding more spring preload. I'm not sure that I can get 20mm out of the ride height along but I'll try...
My shock has a ride height adjuster which is a giant heim joint. I measured it previously and it has 14 turns of max engagement so I'm assuming I can go 7 turns out max for safety and keep 7 turns in the shock... do you agree with that?
I was at 3 turns out and now with 7 turns out the rider sag is just over 50mm, so 10 more that before. I'm happy to say that the static sag with no wider is about 15mm right now. So long story short, I have the 500lb spring in, 8mm of static sag and 50mm rider sag, only problem ins I's like 40mm rider sag. I can do one of 5 things-
a) leave it alone
b) lower the front more
c) add rear spring preload
d) reduce the heim engagement another turn or two
or e) get a heavier spring.
I actually used to have a 550 spring but it felt so stiff that I sold it, I wish I had it now to at least try it 🙂
I may be at the April 15 Fun Track Dayz if I can swing it, looking forward to learning a little more.
It was great to meet you on the weekend at Hampton downs raceway.
Watching you working with Dillon Telford & then seeing the difference in the way the bike handled after your advice was awesome It certainly gave our team a lift we needed. Hope to see you again at Manfield!
Settings applied that you suggested.
I have not ridden anything as composed between Lobethal and Basket Range in thirty years of riding. Look forward to catching up next time you’re in Adelaide. If you need anything set up please let me know.
I have another bike, an 09 Yamaha R6.
I watched your videos about adjusting sag and adjusting rebound, compression etc a thousand times. I adjusted the bike when I press down on the seat front and rear will go up and down evenly.
I rode the bike today and it is a huge difference the bike handles much better and in corners it is just so much more relaxed.
So thank you for that you inspire a lot of people!
Before I met Dave Moss in Nelson, New Zealand, my 2000 VTR1000SP1 (on standard suspension settings) was very harsh.
After I applied the new settings recommended by Dave, I was truly astounded at the difference it made.
The bike is now compliant and a pleasure ride and after raising the forks by 5mm, as recommended by Dave, it now steers like a bike half it's size.
There are a lot of us senior but not yet senile folk who enjoy having a crack on the track and road but need to adapt to changes in physical ability.
Thanks so much for working with me on the Nuda as is now super stable and confidence inspiring. Also I’m only about 8 days out from Tasmania ride on the SP and it’s feeling better after your touches!
I just returned from the Levi Day track days in Mount Gambier. What an experience.
Had the opportunity to work with Dave on my 2016 GSXR1000 Track bike. Over the two days, Dave set up my suspension and continually monitored it's performance from my feedback. Dave takes the time to explain in detail why he is adjusting things and what to look at for in the future. Great learning experience.
Suddenly a 200HP out of control machine was now a completely different bike in a short period of time.
Reduced lap times by 15 seconds and feeling in control by the second day. Also advice was plentiful about rear sets, levers, riding position, tyre pressures etc.
The best money I have ever spent on a motorbike.
Thank you so much Dave and I look forward to seeing you next year at Mac Park. Cheers Michael
I’m a firm believer that it is great to have things adjusted properly, but it is even more important to be able to understand the different adjustments and learn how to use them. Dave Moss has helped and guided me through this process with continuous support and his amazing availability to share his world of knowledge about suspension, tyres, bike set up, etc via his remote coaching programme.In my case, I set out to get my track bike (sorry my near 20 year old bike, still equipped with the stock OEM suspension, that I use for track riding only) to handle to the best of its capabilities hence ensuring that the bike is not stopping me as rider from learning and evolving my skill set.The differences are real and noticeable, and it is amazing how Dave’s patience to go through my countless e-mails, have helped me turn my old lady into a bike that still pulls its weight around the local track.I’ve essentially gone from a bulky heavy bike, that was difficult to turn, into a much nicer, smoother, easier to turn motorcycle, that gives me the confidence to keep up with more recent, powerful, electronic filled motorcycles out there.Thank you Dave, for helping me keep the bike “ahead of me”.All the best!!!
Huge respect for Dave's help with recommendations, along with a video's detailing every step in the process making it so easy!!!
The annual Indian Superbike Championship is a very, very tightly contested event with extremely talented riders. To win you must be completely fit, ready for the race and have your bike correctly prepared.
On the Atomic motorsports event a couple of weeks prior, I dialed in Gurvinder's GSX1000R and Deepak's BMW S1000RR so they were both ready.
Ducati India approached both riders a week prior to the event with V4's and I was already leaving for the US. So, it was time to get to work via the DMT remote tuning options with both riders. I gave Gurvinder a test plan for his V4S and Poncho from Atomic Motorsports worked with Deepak via settings I supplied. After reviewing tire pictures, more changes were suggested and then it was time to race. Congratulations to Gurvinder for the overall #1 plate and status as National Champion over both races and to Deepak for an overall 3rd place.
Remote tuning with DMT works....
OMG. You are a master of masters. Today's victory at the JK India Superbike Championship is because of you. My lap time I wanted to do is a 1.56 but with good fitness I will do it. Thank you!
NOTE: Deepak ended up 3rd overall.
I won the JK India Superbike Championship! Without you this might have not been possible. Thank you for all your help!
Just a thank you message more than anything. After posting a photo of my tyre (left side picture) and the feedback from Dave I acted on it. The result from my next trackday was far better, still a little tweaking to go - but vastly improved!!!!!
My name is Rishi Agarwal. I attended your seminar in Bangalore and the session in Chennai. I was riding the Aprilia RSV4 RR. I just wanted to write to you and say thank you for your time and effort!
I had a truly eye opening experience understanding how so many different components work. Motorcycling culture is in its infancy in India and not too many of us understand the how’s and why’s of the way things work. When I heard that you were coming to India my jaw dropped because we don’t get too many opportunities like this here.
My bike is fully stock and has just turned one year old. I’m super excited to have my suspension serviced after putting in 1.05 rating springs in the front along with 10W oil. I will try and find some way of servicing the rear as well. I just hope I am able to achieve the same settings again.
If there’s one thing you’ve taught me, its “why they heck wont you just try and see what works”. I think I’ve been afraid to work with suspension thus far for lack of knowledge (or more honestly for being too lazy to learn).
Thanks for helping me with that PB lap (I know there was at least another second in those laps)!!!!!
Thank you Dave for tuning my suspension, it handles like a dream.
A lot of feed back from the front ends trail brakes like no other just have to point my head and it goes. I really enjoy my bike now!! cheers
I wanted to thank you for the settings that you gave me. I had Sport Rider magazine's settings before,and your settings were far better! I felt the better balance right away. Also, normal tire wear.
First time in racer practice at Loudon since 1990. Held my own in expert class,faster all day.
I come from a long family history of racers. My dad was a very good classic racer and even has high lights of racing in the first world super bike races. You would think I was a natural racer. Well I wasn’t. I did not come naturally to me. I had to work hard on my self and my riding.
I’ve been racing now 6 years. Hitting lines and apex’s was fine. It was that I was quite sensitive to the bike. I could feel things weren’t right with the handling of the bike and I couldn’t push to go faster. I didn’t have the knowledge of what to do so I would just go out and try things write every change down to get a feeling of how does that feel if I go hard all the way then softer the other way. My friends laugh at me as I have a suit case full of 6 yrs of data wrote down.
My dad found Dave this year on YouTube told me to sit and watch him. So I did. I wasn’t too far out on my sag suspension as I always had my shock and suspension serviced every year and they helped me with a good base setting. But....
Watching Dave’s rebound videos and his tyres wear ones too - they helped so much. So much so I went out and bought new tyre gauge, tyre probe and new tyre warmers.
Watch the videos - you will be amazed to the fact "Are your tyres actually being heated up to the right temp?"
Breaking down corners in to the 3 parts was a big help.
Well, going out in practice gave me points to think about and then when I came in I made the changes I needed to make and in practice I was normally only 2 secs of my race PB. So come qualifying I could get even closer to my PB and by first race I would smashed my PB.
Enough said really. Watch the videos and if you are lucky to live close to Dave, get some one on one.
Thanks again Dave.
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Meeting with and expert or a boss “Dave Moss”...
As I decided to buy my first bike (NC750X) in 2015 i had no idea about motorbikes and the mechanic about them. After I have changed my bike to 2017 Africa Twin,explored that there are lots of options needs tuning for suspension. I had no idea about any of them and there aren’t any service or mechanic that I know to get help.
Incidentally, I met guys in a shop (Rapi Online Motorcycle Garage) who are also RoSPA examiners:- Sertan Karamollaoğlu and Tugrul Sozeri. Great guys,they are not only businessmen, they are mechanic, salesman and also teachers. After few visits we have been good friends.
Last year in August, Sertan announced that there will be a seminar about suspension and a guy will come from U.S called Dave Moss. I had no idea about suspension and tuning boss Dave Moss. But I thought that I have to join this seminar, because I am 250lbs and 6’6” and I was feeling that my bike’s springs are so soft on the pavement. Also when I was riding with my pillion the geometry of bike was like front is up and rear was down. The feeling was very light on handlebar.
The seminar was very useful.
First of all we have learned that ever bike must be tuned according to the rider.And every time you must change the preload and tyre pressure according to the weight on the bike because Factories fix the bikes according to a regular rider who is 150lbs and 6’ tall. Also the tyres are the same.
After the seminar Dave checked all the bikes and there were really interesting results. For example my bikes stock forks were tuned completely different than each other and my stock rear spring was softer than it must be.
Dave tuned my bike and advised me to change the spring sets (front&rear) with hard heavy duty ones. After he tuned my preload,comp. and rebounds
The bike changed character. I was more confident in the corners and on brakes.
Sertan ordered me new spring set from Hyperpro +20mm and Tugrul replaced them and also tuned up.
This August 2018 Dave Moss came to Istanbul for another seminar and also this year there was an option that he will make fine tuning several times according to riders wish on the road conditions during a ride. After every ride which is 25-30 km long, Dave asked us how we feel and what we wish or need. It was 3-4 hours for each rider to find the correct tuning for him.
It was an awesome day to discover yourself and your bikes limits.
The bike’s character is changed like Dr.Jekyll and Mr.Hyde before and after the tuning. I feel more confident and have more fun of my bike now.
Thanks to Dave Moss “the Boss” and also thanks to Sertan Karamollaoğlu and Tugrul Sozeri,RAPI GARAGE...
The seminar was very useful. Personally I recommend that seminar to all motorcycle users, and especially the Africa Twin owners. I understand that setting up our bike for ourselves is one of the most important details that we neglect.
After my bike is set up most of the problems that I and other Adventure Touring (AT) riders has been solved. One of our friends is preparing summary notes for that seminar to be published in our 6.000 people AT group.
Thanks to everyone that contributed to that seminar.
After Dave’s seminars and suspension tuning sessions on local roads, all of us are much more confident on our bikes and also happier with its performance, grip and comfort.
There is too much to learn for a biker and the time we’ve spent with Dave was very helpful for understanding that. Within one weekend we understood how ergonomics and geometry changes our riding, and how to adjust our suspension according to changing environment and riding style. There are still lots of things to understand so we are looking forward to see Dave again in Turkey.
Until then I’ll follow the DMT channel and will make few Skype sessions to learn more and more.
Thanks again Dave for all your contributions to our rides.
Before I met Dave Moss and started to study his content, my motorcycle had a poor set up. Rebound, compression and preload was way off. The ride experience was poor and unsafe. My bike was always trying to run wide on corners. Tire wear was pretty bad too.
Now, after a proper setup provided remotely by Dave, the ride experience is excellent. Its like having a new bike. Now I have confidence enough to improve my riding skills.
Thanks for the suspension tune!
She is handling great. Put in some work on a set of Q3s yesterday. Thanks to you bike is holding a way tighter line.
I did the adjustments and the bike feels MUCH better!!
So, in the front. I'm at 4 in in preload instead of 10 (stock 5) that left me with 35mm of SAG:
- 4 out rebound
- 5 out compression
For more front feel I will be trying in a progressive way 4-3-2-1 with the rebound setting.
In the rear I'm at min preload and 3 out compression which gives me 40mm of SAG.
Thank you very much Dave! Please send the PayPal invoice.
Hello Dave, how are you ?
My name is Stefan. I am 37 years old and I live in Germany (Bavaria).
I have been riding a Suzuki Gsxr 1000 K6 for almost 12 years now and in the past 3 years I started to learn more about suspension setup and settings and tyre wear.
I have experimented with different setups to see how it works and to get a better feeling for my bike. I watched some Youtube Videos from Dave Moss as well to learn more about it !
This year I have replaced both tyres with a Conti Sport Attack 3 which is a really great street tyre. After riding a couple of kilometres I could see that something was strange with my rear tyre wear.
It seemed to be too rough, too much rubber balls and later cracks on the surface and it looked for me like a hot or cold tear (I thought first).
So I tried different pressure- and shock setups but nothing really worked !! I only ride on the street and I have never had the problem before with different street tyres!
I don´t really have the experience to decide what caused this wear. That´s the reason why I got in contact with Dave. I told him about my problem and sent him a few pictures of my tyre wear!
Anyway, Dave replied very quickly and told me that this wear is caused by a wrong geometry where the surface of the tyre is overheating because I changed my tyre size from standard 190/50 to 190/55.
It was really interesting for me because I rode different tyres before with size 190/55 and I couldn`t see that problem on the rear tyre but the compound of the Sport Attack 3 showed me that!
So on my bike it’s a bit difficult to change shock preload (not enough space to work on it) so I changed back to standard tyre size 190/50!
After a few hundreds of kilometres and lots of throttle outside corners the tyre wear looked great in my opinion and Dave also confirmed me that!!
So after all, Dave did an awesome job and gave me such amazing and useful information, I couldn`t believe that only a slightly bigger tyre could cause a wrong geometry and a poor wear!
And without Dave`s help, surely I would have experimented into the wrong direction!
Thanks a lot Dave for your support and your professional help!!
Dave Moss – Remote Suspension Tuning Summary in Austria/EU
- and 19.09.2018 – Brno Curcuit Czech Republic
Arnold from Austria, Bike: 2017 Aprilia Tuono V4 RR
Track: Brno - CZ (MotoGP Track):
- Getting help in finding good suspension setting for my bike and riding style
- Improving the handling of the bike / getting more confidence in riding
- Tire wear / duration of the tire was a big issue as well
- Maybe some hints, tips and tricks about setting up the suspension
About the setup of the remote tuning:
I got in contact with Dave via email and asked for a remote tuning session for my Aprilia. I got within a couple of hours a feedback (mind the time shift of 9 hours to my local time). It was very uncomplicated to arrange the tuning, no up front payments needed – the topic was in focus not financials. Dave really took time to understand what I need and I expect from the tuning.
All current settings I have sent to Dave in front of the track day at Automotodrom Brno in Czech Republic with some pictures of the tire from my last track day at Slovakia Circuit in Slovakia.
He advised a set of adjustments I should try out and give feedback – that was a good way to overcome the time shift, because morning in US was already afternoon in EU, so most of the training sessions were already done.
After running all the settings I have sent to Dave for each setting my personal feedback and pictures of the tires via WhatsApp.
WhatsApp is the preferred way because phone calls are not that easy to do in such a noisy environment like sitting in the pit with a lot of track action ongoing. He proposed some adjustments to my favorite settings to improve tire wear and get me confident in the suspension.
- being hard on gas my backhand was pumping especially at the uphill section at Brno before the start/finish line chicane.
- after tighten/slowing up the rebound of the shock step by step it got better each time until it was perfect for me – not suffering in other sections.
- after the tuning the tire wear pattern looked very good.
Front: after tuning
Back: after tuning
What did I learn?:
- Don’t bet too much on the opinion of your pit colleagues because
- They may have a different bike
- The suspension may be different
- They are using different tires
- They may have a different weight as you have
- Different riding style and skills
What is good for them does not mean its good for you as well!
- Note everything you know, all settings, temperatures, measurements you are doing, more information leads to better understanding what’s ongoing and how to treat it. Just having a feeling and turning screws wild leads to nothing good.
- Make also huge adjustment changes to really feel what’s the effect on it, getting better, getting worse – note directly after you hop off the bike what your thoughts are, the first impression is gone after a couple of minutes if you do not write it down.
- Be careful with setting up the suspension, take time for it, adjust according the plan, no guessing and adjustments on feelings and believes, stay on the plan what you make before for not losing track and focus what you want to achieve.
- Take the suspension as soft as possible which fits to your riding style – improvements in lap time needs to have some slight adjustments as well, also ambient and track temperatures are effecting suspension much more than expected.
Output what you can get from the remote tuning.
- I gained great understanding of how to set up the suspension – knowledge transfer – Dave is very kind to share. All asked questions are answered sufficiently and as questions can be random verses well organized.
- Also try “out of scope looking” settings – trust the great experience of Dave, maybe that’s a setting which fits you better than you expect – at least you learn a lot about your individual suspension and how it performs.
- You will find well tuned suspension settings for your riding style and skills which you can gain trust in because you have a better understanding.
- The tire wear was improving significantly in two directions – the wear pattern was improving much in the front and back (means grip) as well as the duration/life of the tire improved a lot (abrasion). Even when getting faster on the track the tire lasts longer. Just to illustrate what that means. Before the adjustments, a fresh – brand new tire was gone to 1/3 after 3 Stints (20min). After the tuning the tire looks pretty much new after 3 training sessions and a race at the end – I’m sure this tire lasts for at least 3-4 days now which is an increase of about 250-300% in duration with same or faster lap times!
- At last a base setting you can start working on for each individual track you are at – with asking a lot of questions I gained a know-how of what to do next track day if something feels strange – only small adjustments are needed.
I can highly recommend having a session with Dave – best would be face to face but the remote tuning session worked better than my expectations. That’s because of the huge experience Dave has in this area.
As much information you can give to Dave, he can advise how to get you and the tires to be better. Making pictures, sending the settings you have done with the comment how it felt to you… what is getting better, what is getting worse etc…
One thing which could be improved is that Dave is asking more questions about the feeling of the bike – maybe that was not needed due to the notes I have written down.
First I want to thank you for your effort to make all the videos. I watch them since about a year. Thanks for your recommended settings. My lap times and tires were now much better and smoother.
I was again on track last weekend. That was my absolute reference track. I smashed my time about to 2,5 Seconds
Just wanted to share this with you. I’ve sent a lot of time on your site and watching your premium content. And would just like to say thank you. I’ve been dropping time like crazy and finally have the bike setup near perfect.
As I’ve gained speed I’ve been able to add or remove clicks with confidence. As well moving from Track to Track being able to change my setup and still keep the bike happy.
I was able to do a personal best at Buttonwillow this weekend. 1:55 with traffic.
Again just a thank you for sharing great content your knowledge to the world. I’ve attached some pics of my nice beach looking tires 🙌🏼.
So as I hoped, I had my track day this last Thursday, and I took a few notes and photos, which I’m hoping you can have a look and give me some pointers. The day was a bi shorter than I expected as there were fair few crashes and track time got reduced a bit (I ended up not having time for the last session of the day).
From the day, I can say that the bike turns in better and easier, I’d say that this is a result of dropping the front as discussed. Also the Michelin Power RS is much better that what I had before, and I never had any issues. Naturally I took my time getting up to speed to make sure that the tyres warmed up, especially considering that they were brand new and I don’t use warmers.
As for suspension I wanted to poke your brain a bit more as to if it is possible, but more importantly worthwhile (or just a waste of money) to upgrade my suspension, either by changing some, or all the internals of the forks, or changing the whole front end altogether. I suppose what I’m not sure about is “how bad” the forks are, and if the fork body (the black outer tube and the shinny inner tube) could work with different components, and (and this is a big and) if someone like me would really tell the difference?
Thank you so much for your comments and patience. You’ve really given me great help and guidance (seriously)!
Thank you Dave!!!
Thanks so much for your help today, the bike felt amazing by the afternoon!
I didn't get a chance to connect with you before I had to leave, so I rode home on the track settings - lots of "feedback"!
These are the settings we ended up at, would you be able to give me some street settings based on these?
Front: REB: 14 clicks from hard COMP: 7 clocks from hard
Rear; REB: 11 clicks from hard COMP: 10 clicks from hard
I entered settings you gave me, including tyre pressure up to required psi.
As so as I started out of my main street onto the straightaway I knew it was different, as in softer and the bumps I usually felt were kinda no drama!
I headed for the place I usually ride, and to be honest I was looking for something to be not quite right etc lol considering what is was like before a stiff as a board in the front I felt everything in my wrists.
From where it was its a totally new bike to ride.
The zip tie was 30mm from the bottom casting so I just left it alone because it was so enjoyable to ride with let me tell you, like 99% full confidence in the front end which I never had (it was always twitchy and if you hit a bump mid corner you would **** your pants) but now it soaked it up no trouble so I'm really stoked Dave, truely.
Is it perfect, prob not but from where it was its 100% better. I'm a realist so I know it could prob be tweaked on more but for the moment with the roads iIride and my riding ability I'm calling it good for the next few rides until i get familiar with the new settings.
Once again Dave i thank you sincerely as your help is invaluable once again.
Thanks again mate, I'm one happy kangaroo
AS A ROADRACE MOTORCYCLE NEWBIE..
I started at California Superbike School. First track day, bought a 2013 salvage Daytona 675 within weeks and completed 8 full trackdays on Nov 19th.
I learned more from a half day private lesson from Dave Moss at $350 than from 2 days with CSS (this included his complete suspension set up of your bike).
I liked the fact that Moss's personalized teaching is derived from his lead follow video interpretation of your style. He adapts your particular "idiom" to the necessary series of events that MUST occur during your laps to increase speed and safety, while NOT enticing you to adopt difficult to attain body positions, lean angles, or "too fast too soon" issues.
This guy knows more about going fast than most, but tailors concepts of attaining speed to you and how you ride. I continue to reexamine that day's voice over video from Moss...when I feel as if I've cleared most of my beginner hurdles, I will repeat.
- Static sag hot - unknown will run hard on the road and report back.
- Fork travel - unknown will run on road and replicate braking to best of abilities and report back. (Zip tie on the fork leg?)
- Fork oil and fork height are factory.
It was nice to finally meet you at Sonoma this past weekend. I appreciate the time you took to make the tweaks to my R6's suspension, but more importantly the education on WHY you made the changes you did and HOW to eyeball for what's going on with the tires and how that connects to my riding. It helped me get a bit deeper understanding of the bike/rider as an interconnected "system" being applied in the track environment.
Also, it's nice to have an experienced, accomplished racer give some tips and encouragement to a newbie like me. You obviously had plenty to do so I really appreciate that you gave a few minutes of focused attention to offer patient explanations to my novice questions. Thanks again!
You have no idea the tremendous amount of help you have been to me and
the amount of knowledge I have gained from a few simple emails and watching
a couple hours of videos on your site. I can't say thank you enough!
If there is anything I can do to help promote your business/services or even
on a personal level please don't hesitate to ask. You are what every
vendor/supplier/ and instructor should be rolled into one very
I'm sure I will be bugging you again with some simple nonsense I cant
figure out or don't yet understand but I have a base knowledge enough to
discuss, understand, and start the tuning process on my own.
Thank you again Dave,
The man is a legend in my book... top bloke 🙂
Thanks Dave, for all your help and guidance.
I didn’t get a chance to return to ProItalia to thank you again for the tune! I enjoyed the ride so much that I kept going. My Blue R6 actually turns now.
It was a little funny how shocked you looked when I told you I ran it at Buttonwillow with the previous setup. I feel a lot more stable on the bike and my confidence approaching the corners has significantly increased.
Thanks for saving my life. Thanks for doing what you do. And thanks for being the best at it.
From here on out, I only trust Dave Moss with my suspension tuning! Cheers!
Dave set up my bike the improvement is unbelievable, I’d recommend anyone who rides get it set up by dave.
Thanks for showing me the process of how to learn; having a ‘map’ of how to approach it. I understand it is a process and a dynamic one over time and changing conditions but now feel I have a better understanding of what/how and why each setting should be approached. I like starting with one thing and changing it 25% and then another +25%, making notes and arriving at too much one way or the other and then working back and forth in smaller increments to find the right setting. As my understanding grows and the fear of unknown goes away with experience I am now confident I will soon have a setup that both works and gets the bike geometry with me on it to work in balance. Today’s ride after two days worth of stop/settings change/start/stop was fantastic, best the bike has ever felt.
Amazing! He’s a great coach, straight forward and honest. Even though my time with him was short, not one second of the whole hour was wasted. He gauges where you are skill wise and adjusts as needed. Got my list to work on. The videos are great!!! He is truly dedicated to helping riders in this industry.
3 days ago
approachable, easy to talk too and extremely knowledgeable... See MoreSee Less
3 days ago
Awesome guy. I watch people in amazement when Dave checks their bike and talks to them. He is a genius and a well respected guy.... See MoreSee Less
1 week ago
such a wealth of knowledge that is clearly conveyed to the viewer from basics to advanced... See MoreSee Less
2 weeks ago
very knowledgeable about bikes and trying to teach you all the how to do it yourself... See MoreSee Less
4 weeks ago
After watching some videos on youtube then jumping on the websites and paying only ten dollars for access to the rest of his videos I've learned sooooo much about suspension, ergonomics, chain maintenance and riding.
Got my first bike recently, didn't know anything about bikes when I bought it! Fortunately I'm fairly good with engineering and mechanics, so after watching all the videos, decided I needed new suspension.
I'm not racing only commuting and a little bit of fun on the windy roads near where I live, so first thing I decided to install was the front fork upgrade with a preload adjuster as the bike always rode wide in the corner, turns out I had what was probably very close to hydrolocking fork. I was only using about 30mm of the available 110mm of travel on my fork, I had to remove a lot of oil!
Next I changed my rear shock to one with more range on the preload as well as rebound adjustment.
got a friend to help me with that as well as help set my sag.
The bike now rides like a dream!!!! can't feel bumps in the road cornering is sooooo much smoother and more confident its amazing the difference in the ride!!!!... See MoreSee Less
4 weeks ago
"There are no words to describe the knowledge that Dave has! Dave did multiple suspension tuning on my MV Agusta Dragster RC and turned it from great handling to extraordinary. Not only he checked the settings and listened to my feedback but he was able to figure out the issue from reading the different patches on both tyres. He straight away applied the changes required and boom the bike is transferred! Only Dave Moss can make a great handling bike better everytime he makes a small change on it. Can't thank you enough and I sincerely hope that your future plans work! All the best. Aws from New Zealand"... See MoreSee Less
1 month ago
Dave was very responsive and generous with his advice to help me tune my suspension via email!... See MoreSee Less
1 month ago
After watching his YouTube video. This guy is sweet and short no selling straight to the points. Make me want to see his premium version... See MoreSee Less
2 months ago
Very useable information to exact more performance, safety and longevity from you motorcycles and riding career. Dave's articles and videos are a most valuable resource, I strongly recommend the couple of dollars for monthly/ annual subscription for all novice and intermediate riders!... See MoreSee Less
2 months ago
Knowledge of many bikes basic suspension adjustability, using them to initially set up the bike for static sag and then vast knowledge of using those adjustments to suit the specific rider.... See MoreSee Less
2 months ago
Wow!!! Thank you so much Dave Moss for adjusting my suspension today at the HD Moto day at Hampton Downs. What a difference you made to my day. I turned up with settings on my ZX6R as per the Manual which was totally wrong... folks don’t go by the manual settings😬.... thankfully Dave did his magic and as you can imagine this was me all day 😃🏍💕 super awesome day!!!... See MoreSee Less
3 months ago
Dave has provided his considerable expertise to 184 riders in Kāpiti over the last five years the Shiny Side Up Kāpiti events have been running with his Suspension seminars this year 2020 with 25 riders attending and two Suspension rides with 14 riders. All riders motorbikes are now setup safely and those riders now know how to keep their motorbikes tuned to them as the setup will only last for 1200 km. They can now pay it forward to help other riders Many Many thanks Dave... See MoreSee Less
3 months ago
Dave's fantastic advice, suggestions and tuition made a real difference to my lap times and the enjoyment of my weekend. Plus he's a top bloke. Thank you Dave. Subscribed! Cheers, Hamish (ex Britten M/C, Chch, NZ)... See MoreSee Less
3 months ago
Have seen Dave work his magic. Just a few tweaks can transform a bike when done right.... See MoreSee Less
3 months ago
Dave went through my bike with me at the Burt Munro rally(Boulevardc90)in Christchurch, and its set up beautifully, what a difference it makes to change levers and tyre pressures.
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3 months ago
Dave Moss has helped me at the track by providing and educating myself and others on a good suspension setup. My race bikes have felt the best after Dave Moss had his way with the suspension.... See MoreSee Less
3 months ago
Very clear and precise directions on suspension adjustments with clear reasoning for his direction... See MoreSee Less
4 months ago
Dave checked out my Guzzi Stelvio yesterday in Blenheim New Zealand. Immediately (5mins) transformed my bikes handling for the better. Thoroughly recommend his service.... See MoreSee Less
4 months ago
i have asked for lots of questions and dave answerd me with alot of patience.
Thank you Dave!... See MoreSee Less
4 months ago
Both of my race bikes sorted by Dave Moss today.
I now have the pleasure of bikes that now steer beautifully...now I know exactly where we are going to be there is now some much more track to work with. And it slows better and it speeds up better and its easier to ride and i get my monies worth from my expensive tyres.
I have had one of those rare wonderfull days today thanks to a lot of people at the track...thankyou all.
Dave was the highlight and i feel the small investment i made will be the bestinvestment i have ever experienced in my sport.
If you ever get the chance to work with Dave...TAKE IT... See MoreSee Less
4 months ago
Dave has probably saved our lives many times because he taught us to have our bike setup properly and get the most out of them.... See MoreSee Less
5 months ago
Dave is teaching me the settings for my bike. Dave's help on an ala'carte basis has been great. I plan on being a DMT subscriber soon.... See MoreSee Less
5 months ago
Great at what he does. Has helped me set up my sons bike and some of his friends with good results.... See MoreSee Less
6 months ago
Dave is the very best at his craft !!. He always takes time to respond to messages and offers the best advice. Thanks Dave. 😀😀😀😀... See MoreSee Less
7 months ago
Incredible understanding of the many suspension settings, how they relate to each other, and ability to put all the pieces together to get the right answer.... See MoreSee Less
7 months ago
he is just so full useful advice and knows so much about motorcycle set ups. highly recommend going to see him at his lectures.... See MoreSee Less
8 months ago
Highly recommend utilising Dave Moss. A couple of adjustments with the suspension had my tyres performing beautifully! This rear tyre did 2 race meets and on the last lap of the day did a 1:09 around Hidden Valley. Cheers again Dave and hope to see you again in the near future 👍... See MoreSee Less
9 months ago
Has ample knowing of suspension and is able to convey it to motorcycle novices in a precise manner... See MoreSee Less
9 months ago
I finally had the opportunity to work one on one with Dave in person! Very happy with my results and the direction for the future Racing my two old Hondas! Cheers... See MoreSee Less
9 months ago
Amazing videos can watch them all day. Have just followed some tips on adjusting the pre load and it’s transformed my bike
Top man... See MoreSee Less
10 months ago
Great advice and for beginner's and advanced riders .Well explained in laymen's term of understanding and practical demonstration.... See MoreSee Less
10 months ago
Dave is a very helpful fellow who can read the wear on a tyre like a clairvoyant can read tea leaves. Thanks for your help in Darwin Dave.... See MoreSee Less
10 months ago
Dave Moss is one of the world's best suspension and tuning professionals.
I highly recommend... See MoreSee Less
11 months ago
Dave is fantastic, not only will he tune your suspension perfectly, he'll pass on this knowledge so you can learn to do it yourself!... See MoreSee Less
11 months ago
Brilliant session with Dave via Skype.
Made big changes to the way the bike handles, amazing stuff.
Loads of good advice on top of that plus he explained to me the why behind what we were doing.
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11 months ago
Dave I don't even know where to start. thank you for spending so much time with me on the BMW at WMRRA round 3. I was educated, encouraged and my bike worked fantastic. we took home the win! Hope to see you again in the future, and thank you again.... See MoreSee Less
1 years ago
I just had an email remote tuning session with Dave Moss. It was an amazing experience within asking me a few questions most of my issues with my 18 RSV4 where sorted. He is a clear communicator and is at the highest level in terms of professionalism and expertise. I would highly recommend him to anyone who is seeking to make their motorcycle bespoke to them. You will love your machine even more!... See MoreSee Less
1 years ago
Dave set up my new to me 2015 KTM Super Duke ( 4,000 miles) and it feels like a different bike. No more bouncing around! It feels smooth and stable. Even more importantly Dave took the time to explain every single thing that he checked and did on the bike and I feel that I now could do it my self next time ! Thanks Dave!!!... See MoreSee Less
1 years ago
Dave is on another level as far as understanding and explaining what needs to happen to make your bike right for you. If you ride a motorcycle you should contact Dave to make sure you get the most out of your bike and riding experience.
St rider 2004-present... See MoreSee Less
1 years ago
Set up My MT10...WOW, just Wow.
Rides so smooth.feels safe and balanced and obediant on the cornering. smooth and flows over the uneven surfaces on the road.
Coukd not believe the difference.... See MoreSee Less
1 years ago
After being absent from riding motorbikes for 15 years I recently bought myself a BMW 650. Tonight I went on a 'tuning' ride with Dave Moss, wondering if someone with not many miles under her belt would feel the benefit of this. Well that is truly an understatement - his first 'tweak' made a HUGE difference. I was no longer getting left behind when I accelerated and I felt much safer on the corners (all be it slowly) and was not being thrown around like previous. I was also a tad worried about my skill level doing such a ride, but I had nothing to worry about and my skill level was not an issue. If you are sitting on the fence on this one, then all I can say is DO IT !!! you wont regret it 🙂 Thanks Dave, for being approachable enough to give me the courage to give this a go 🙂... See MoreSee Less
1 years ago
Arriving at a new track with little to no idea of what to expect and thinking I had one very sorted bike and one that was pretty close. How quickly I learnt I was wrong and my setup was less than ideal. With some useful knowledge and tips from Dave my first day was improved and after having Him sort me out with some setup tips and adjustments on the second day the difference was night and day. From fighting the bike and forcing it where I wanted to making it an absolute pleasure to ride I can't recommend Dave highly enough. If your unsure or think you don't need it honestly just give the man a chance you won't be disappointed. I just wish I had more time at the track and had the foresight to bring all my bikes for him to tweak.... See MoreSee Less
1 years ago
One of the most experienced guy who can do magic on your bikes. Working with him, I learnt a lot. Huge respect😊... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
he is the best tunner for bikes I have ever seen... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
No nonsense setting of static suspension (preload, rebound and compression) so your bike is right for you before you venture out...... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Dave sorted my 09’ Aprilia’s suspension quite well! It was a terribly rough ride- like a bull ride! Now it’s feeling like a bike should and I can go through bumpy corners without getting airborne!
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2 years ago
Dave does an excellent job handling all suspension work. He has done work on my BMW, Yamaha, and my son’s Kawasaki. His work is very clean and thorough, with great results. Not to mention he also has a great personality! Go Dave! Cheers!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
I have had 2 of my bikes tuned by Dave and all I can say is WOW! It's like riding a completely new bike when he is done. If you let him know what's bothering you he will most likely have a solution and he will also fix things you didn't even know you were stuggling with. All around great service and great guy full of knowledge that is hard to find. 10/10 would recommend to anybody I know.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Was fortunate to have Dave work on my bike at Area 27......the difference was unreal and never went as fast as I have after the tune! As Dave says “tires don’t lie” and he has the knowledge to set your bike right!!! Thanks Dave �... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Advice and recommendations 2nd to none,thanks Dave!
Your mission on saving lives is truely amazing.
All the best Mate!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Attended a Dave Moss suspension tuning seminar and it was the best money I’ve ever spent on my motorcycle. More people need to realize the importance of having your suspension setup for you and this was a great learning experience as well as making my motorcycle feel like a completely different bike in every way possible.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
I've been watching and reading his posts after work non-stop since I came across a youtube video posed by a guy who 'visited' one of his free street ride setup gigs.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
it was because of Dave that I got into suspension tuning. The way that he explains everything makes perfect sense. Not only that, but he always makes time to respond to questions on Facebook.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
I have been fortunate enough to attend a seminar while Dave was here in New Zealand.
Dave taught me alot about motorcycle suspension set up and the importance of tyre compounds etc.
He also took the time to set up my freinds R6 and completely changed how the bike performed.
highly recommend Dave and his teachings.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
I only recently began riding motorcycles two years ago with a local minimoto league. Having an automotive background I was familiar with a lot of suspension related concepts, however, motorcycle geometry and suspension was foreign.
I raced the large part of two years fumbling through different modifications on my bike to help behaviors on the bike I didn't prefer, admittedly, without really knowing what I was doing. Once I discovered the Dave Moss Master Class video on youtube, I then began to get an idea of what I was doing vs. what the bike was doing and how to correct those behaviors of the bike I didn't like. I pretty much took the time to read and study every DM video and resource I could get my hands on.
Only after discovering these principles did I discover how bad my bike was. Greatly oversprung forks, hydraulic lock, under dampened, etc.. New springs, correct oil levels, correct dampening, sag set, I now had a bike that rode COMPLETELY different... literal night and day. I went from fighting the bike around the entire track that was unstable over fast corners, to the compliant, neutral, and predictable bike I had been after.
I dropped a full seconds of my previous personal best lap time, and I'm still re-learning the bike. It was apparently noticeable to others because I had two people mention how "planted" I looked the since properly setting up the bike with no mention of it to anyone prior.
I owe it to you, Dave, for putting your wealth of knowledge out there. I genuinely enjoy the tinkering aspect of motorcycles and this gives me a great foundation to see what's possible. Although I'll never have the experience you do, I'll be sure to speak highly of your services and knowledge and lend it to others any chance possible.
Thank you!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
I was really surprised by Dave's mentality in the sense that the isn't running this as a business but as a person who genuinely cares and has a passion for what he does. I've been struggling for a few decades on suspension but he nails it in a few moments in terms of how a layman / woman can understand. He really makes me feel knowledgeable but in a contextual way.
Thank you.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
High Class teach on suspension European style great person the best... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Suspension Guru he makes a average Rider into a good Rider with his world of knowledge and suspension tuning skills... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Dave is simply awesome, I redid my forks on my bike and nearly regretted having done it as it was very harsh and heavy feeling. It was bad enough that I didn't enjoy riding the bike on the street very much. Dave made a few adjustments and explained each one, what he was changing why and what it affected and really went through why the bike felt like it did before he changed the setting. All I can say is I will gladly bring him any bike I own from here on out. It was an absolute night and day difference, I never thought a sport bike could ride so nice. The bike feels so much more planted in every situation. I could not be happier, and can't recommend Dave's work shops and setups enough.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
The man is a scientist, engineer and a psychotherapist all in one. What else could you ask for when adjusting suspension on you’re motorcycles, whether race bikes, touring bikes or cruising machines. Thanks Dave!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Technically oriented explanations. Only from videos I had a massive improvement on my bike settings. In a couple of minutes, everyone can get the entire control of the bike. Now I am under geometry analysis...... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Thank you Dave, was such a pleasure getting my bike done by, you!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Hardest working man in the paddock. Nobody knows suspension better than Dave.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Got my suspension tuned at thunderhill yesterday, btw keigwins @ the track is an excellent provider.... anyway the bike feels like it was made for me now I cannot express this enough GET YOURS TUNED BY DAVE IT WILL BE THE BEST MONEY YOU EVER SPEND. Can’t say enough good... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
I was fortunate enough to have my bikes dialed in at the track throughout when I was at the track. He is the best and a legend.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Informative and simple without the scary non-
sensical jargon... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Had the privilege of meeting Dave personally for the first time at a local track day and he was more than accommodating. Talk about knowledge of suspension this guy knows his stuff. Thanks again Dave for all your help. I look forward to growing as a rider with your support and help!!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
He's so straight forward all of his videos are great. Thanks heaps for all your advice.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Dave is a magician. In minutes had my bike sorted and now is more comfortable with better handling.... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
A huge and ever so grateful thank you to Dave, I have never had such a smooth, stable ride.. EVER!!!! How quickly and easily he identified problems with my bike blew my mind!!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Dave you are pro! Watching your videos during the frost winter time keeps me on the track to the next season! When do you come here Finland!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
The real suspensions guru. Never met someone so knowledgeable and ready to help. Definitely got my value for money!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Dave is a bit of a unicorn... he's extremely knowledgeable, friendly, helpful, and patient. He has helped me make leaps and bounds in my riding!... See MoreSee Less
2 years ago
Thank you Dave for your help! I appreciate you responding!... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Spent Nov 3rd at buttonwillow and Dave setup my suspension for my zx10r. Best $40 Spent on a mod for my bike. Thanks Dave for the setup and for all the advices you threw my way.... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Love Dave and the work he put into my Aprilia RSV4 RF... now she rides like a dream for my 5ft 4in, 120# frame.... ��... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Dave set up my bike the improvement is unbelievable, I’d recommend anyone who rides get it set up by dave... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Dave Moss knowledge and way to explain stuff are pure gold!!... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Amazing! He's a great coach, straight forward and honest. Even though my time with him was short, not one second of the whole hour was wasted. He gauges where you are skill wise and adjusts as needed. Got my list to work on. The videos are great!!! He is truly dedicated to helping riders in this industry.
He also adjusted my suspension, apparently, it was not adjusted to me even though I paid a bit of money to the previous guy. Disappointed, but that's a different story. After the adjusting, I was able to go into corners carrying a higher speed.
Like he says, pay it forward! Thanks Dave, I will seek you out soon!... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Dave is known primarily for his race pedigree and setups and rightfully so. I've watched his videos trying to glean information for my strictly street bike ('13 Triumph Street Triple R) and tried to adjust the suspension the best I could but as Dave says, "You don't know what you don't know." Ignorance, however, is not always bliss. My bike was harsh, skittish and rattled my teeth across bumps and required me to muscle it through turns. A half hour Skype with Dave, lots of his listening to me, sharing his knowledge and then an email from him (on a race weekend no less) on a process of dialing in my bike, for me, which made it a process and dialed it in for the way I ride and the rides I make... made all the difference. The bike is smooth, settled, balanced and confidence inspiring. At speed in turns over uneven roads, it stays planted and easy to lean allowing for a lot more nuance and subtle inputs to have a better experience on the bike. His process for me was systematic, one thing at a time and in doing what he said to the letter teaches you to learn the bike and dial it by macro then micro adjustments to find the best balance of a lot of variables. The bike is just a delight to ride. Dave also teaches that nothing is static, so things change over time and in different conditions; but now I have a basic understanding of at least my bike and the kernel of shared knowledge to adjust it as needed moving forward. Rather than just give you settings and being done with it, he taught me the process to do it myself. Priceless. Learning never stops so to quote my email to Dave: "What I plan on doing now is riding and then redoing each setting, one at a time and again 'listening' to what the bike suspension tells me over a well known stretch of road to check myself and keep the learning curve going.
Thanks for showing me the process of how to learn; having a 'map' of how to approach it. I understand it is a process and a dynamic one over time and changing conditions but now feel I have a better understanding of what/how and why each setting should be approached. I like starting with one thing and changing it 25% and then another +25%, making notes and arriving at too much one way or the other and then working back and forth in smaller increments to find the right setting. As my understanding grows and the fear of unknown goes away with experience I am now confident I will soon have a setup that both works and gets the bike geometry with me on it to work in balance. Today's ride after two days worth of stop/settings change/start/stop was fantastic, best the bike has ever felt."... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
I've been following Dave's online material for a while now, and recently my Ninja 1000 needed a new set of tires and I wanted to try a new brand but stay in the same size tires. So thanks to Dave I knew to measure the old tires vs the new tires and found out the rear was 1/2" taller. I rode the bike with the new tires and the bike was essentially un-rideable for me, the bike wanted to fall over in an uncontrollable manner. But since I knew the rear was a 1/2" taller I simply raised the front by 1/2" and the bike was fixed. So if I didn't know to check tire diameter between tires, I would have wasted money on a new set of tires that would have made my bike un-rideable. A lot of Dave's knowledge is preventative, so it seems like a lot of work till something happens to you and then it saves you hundreds of dollars, and makes the bike safer and more fun.... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Dave is fantastic and really was a pleasure to work with. His ability to transform the handling of my bike and make it work like it never has before was simply amazing. Highly recommend you seek him out at an event.... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Met Dave at Thunderhill West last weekend. He made some changes to the setup on my bike which helped tremendously. On day two I stopped in to tell him I shaved seconds off my lap times. His reply was humble but profound. "See what waking up with a smile and an enthusiastic 'hello' to the new day can do for you?"
I can't wait to get back and learn more!... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
I can't thank Dave enough for all the help he gave me .
I bought a graves Yamaha r6, two weeks before race season started and only had one track day to test the bike, so I went down to NJMP and with a few laps my front tire was destroyed, not a cold tear not a hot tear, it was one of those tire wear difficult to identify.
So now I got a bike that need serious work and I only have a week before race, so I got in touch with Dave knowing that he was at the BSB helping a team . Dave shortly got back to me even on a busy schedule. I gave him all the info I had about the bike and we set up an apt to talk on the phone . So Dave took his time to look at all the pics I had sent him ( fork position, rear axle , shock length etc..) and pretty much knowing it was GEOMETRY problem he send me a detailed step by step chassis set up.
So after making the changes I go to my race weekend at CMP, after doing my fist practice session I already see my front tire is looking great no problem, so from that point on it was time to race and push hard .
With the hep of Dave we were able to win 2 races take tree 2nd place and 2 3rd place finish, I was very happy with the results ��...
Thanks again Dave �... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Dave knows his stuff.. vary good, and easy to understand, i you tubed how to set suspension sag, and dave moss learn't me lol... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Outstanding ! The knowledge we have at our disposal for tuning the race bike is just incredible. DM tuning app is awesome.... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Fantastic help from Dave at Manfield NZ.
All the limitations I've had with the bike and with tyres that were holding me back disappeared after he set the bike up for me.
I thought suspension was only something racers had to worry about, but that myth is well and truly gone and I'm now a huge advocate for what Dave can do, which is setting your bike up correctly for your weight and riding style.
Having my bike set up properly has given me loads more confidence on the track, and has also made my road riding more comfortable (and prob safer) too!
Thanks again... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Just an Amazing contributor to the sport. Thanks Dave!... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Watched Dave Moss masterclass video and set up two street bikes following his instructions to the letter,the difference is incredible from the stock out of the box set up.... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
I am not yet even a track day rider. I went to the California super bike school level one and then began my search for knowledge. I stumbled upon Dave Moss on YouTube and became enthralled. I have messages him countless times and always received a response and recommendation. I went from being afraid to mess with my suspension settings to eager to learn the "what happens if...". I now have not only a better understanding of what happens if I do this to the tuning but a better understanding of my suspension and my riding. He has made my 2014 gsxr 750 an extension of my riding, or more accurately a tool that I trust to do what I want. He has given me the time and advice that one could expect from a paid suspension supervisor on a factory team, and yet I am only someone at the ground floor. Thank you for your time, advice and patience.... See MoreSee Less
3 years ago
Mountain of knowledge and experience. Thanks for sharing!... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Very knowledgeable and seems like an awesome person. Would love for him to tune my suspension on my bike one day hopefully... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
I've been following Dave Moss for over a year now on Youtube and have found him to be a wealth of valuable information. I have been riding motorcycles for over 35 years but with his teachings, I feel like a beginner. He has really opened my eyes to the nuances of the sport. Best of luck to you Dave in all you do!... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Dave does a fantastic job helping riders set up their bikes. Better performance, handling and tire wear. If you are at a track day or event where Dave appears have him set up your bike.... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
After having (ahem) someone else mess with my bike at my last track day, I stopped to see Dave again last weekend at Thunderhill. What an amazing difference! Can't recommend him enough. And it cost less than the other guy, too! Now that it's working like it should, I'm planning on going back for a more in depth setup over the course of a day once I get a little more consistent. Super happy. Tire wear is much much better, as well!... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Expert advice based on sound logic and years of experience. Worth every penny.... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Had a great day today, met Dave Moss at Thunderhill Raceway for some suspension tuning help. Dave inspected, adjusted, sent me out on a few test rides, changed more stuff, sent me out on another test ride, adjusted some more and my FJR is a much more delightful bike to ride both on the slab and in the Twisties. I heartily recommend Dave. He has a unique skill set and is gifted in getting information from the rider, then applying the correct tweak to the bike. Thanks Dave!... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Thanks for setting me up at the track, Thunder Hill 6/7/16. And for all the advice given. You made my track day fun, educating, and safer.... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Dave held a suspension masterclass and offered an awesome cheap opportunity to have your bikes suspension professionally set up after by himself personally...
I learnt so much and am very appreciative of having a great handling bike as well as being armed with alot more knowledge to adapt it to my own needs..... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
I had my first track day in August of 2015. While in the pits, I heard the name Dave Moss mentioned by at least three people. I asked who Dave Moss was, and they steered me towards his Facebook and YouTube channel.
I ended up asking him for his thoughts on where my Daytona should be set to suspension wise. His recommendation was spot on. The bike felt amazing and took bumps in corners better than it ever has.
His video on servicing R6 forks gave me the confidence to attempt my own. It was as easy as he makes it look. He also gave me some pointers about a rear shock swap I was doing.
Thanks to Dave, I can get my suspension dialed in quickly and easily every single track day. Saves a fortune in tires and makes my bike a lot safer to ride. I can't praise the guy enough. He's the real deal.... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Tweaked my Ducati 748sps at Sound of Thunder in Christchurch, New Zealand. Bike feels better than ever and tyre issues have reduced markedly.
Best of all, Dave imparted advice regarding turn 1; After digesting what he said I went out on Sunday running my 3 fastest laps ever. 1.43.51 took 0.7sec off my personal best.
My sincere thanks Dave. See you in Invercargill.... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Thanks for setting up my TRX! Perfected my bike and I now know when it's set up right. You have taught me the importance of knowing my bike and looking after it. Never mind all the excellent tips.
Also paying it forward 🙂... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Awesome tips from a wise man to help me understand the chassie... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Dave, you came over to shed 67 today at Mallala and set up mine and hubby's zx10rs. What an amazing difference, my confidence is sky high now. I really can't thank you enough, it's amazing what a difference a well set up bike makes. Everyone must see this guy... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
If you want someone to teach u to teach your self about sesspension tuning Dave Moss is the Boss.... See MoreSee Less
4 years ago
Dave is the most amazing coach. This year is the end of my 2nd year of attending track days at my home track (thunder hills). Last year I had 1 coaching session with Dave and this year also. Reflecting back on the experiences I’ve definitely seen a huge improvement from last year. This year my lap times are slower overall but Dave has done an amazing job coaching and mentoring me helping my to overcome my fears and emotions. As a man deep into my 40’s, I have an awesome career, very supportive wife and wonderful family. The days have long past when I was fearless and never gave a thought in regard to personal safety and heaven forbid if I was to get in a serious enough crash to affect my ability to work and provide for my family. This apprehension to personal injury has definitely slowed my progress and hampers my confidence. These emotions are best described as fear, self preservation, survival instinct etc.
With Dave’s amazing ability to assess you skills and custom tailor a coaching plan for you, I made this video from my last track day at thunder hills on 10.17.15 that I hope will inspire someone with the same hesitations to enjoy there passion, let go and turn off those little voices inside your head.
Dave….Thanks again we are all so blessed to have such an inspiration and leader as you in our lives and what you give and represent to the motorcycle riding community.
I hope one of you out there get something out of this video:
(facebook is finicky, add the dots "." to WWWdotYOUTUBEdotCOM to watch the video)
https://wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=rjzu-3_KDsY... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
Best spent money. Dave is a master and very friendly!... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
Very friendly and informative. Able to understand what I'm trying to say even if I can't find good words! Pretty much the only guy I'd let tune my suspension for track riding! 3k plus miles on your setup and I'm still loving it!... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
Thanks Dave! Night and day difference! I highly recommend.... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
Awesome guy, very cool to talk with and very intelligent. There's no one else I would want to do my suspension for me. He tells me why he makes the adjustments that he does and finds me later to get feedback on the changes he made. He's very affordable too.... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
So good at listening and giving your bike what it needs to meet your needs. Thanks Dave!... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
I attended a suspension night with Dave in Wellington New Zealand a couple of years ago, he set my suspension up on my CBR600RR properly and it still feels good, but better than the set up was what he taught me that night. My Dad has just gotten a bike after not having had one for many many years, it's a 2007 Suzuki GS500F which I went to look at for him and I found the suspension to be hugely lacking, the front was oscillating badly and probably had the original fork oil in it still. I did some research and found they are known for their front suspension being soft and bottoming out, apparently they were set up for a 60kg rider from the factory, of which my Dad is just a touch bigger than that. The front was off the bike within 20 minutes of picking it up and out with the old 10w oil, I replaced it with a heavier weight and once it was all back together the difference was huge, I also adjusted the rear to the correct amount of pre sag. Thanks to what he taught me I have been able to maintain my own suspension and that of my Dads new bike as well, there are now 2 better handling bikes on the road with 2 much happier riders thanks to Dave!... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
Don't ever ride a bike until Dave sets it up for you. It's probably all wrong.... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
I Don't know Dave but know of him and have purchased a couple of his fork Videos which gave me the insight to what was a mystery to me and so many others I asked.
His Videos allowed me to gain the know how to do a fork oil change on my Bike and a few friends bikes as well.
I contacted Dave on Facebook a few days ago with some suspension problems I was having thinking I might hear back from him in a week or so! That very night I get a reply back from Dave with a detailed answer for my problem Thanks Dave for your help and quick reply to someone who was just asking for Help cheers... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
Fantastic bloke! Straight talking, knowledgeable and one of the best suspension guys in the business.... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
thanks for your teachings.
It is a great help to track all your advice... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
Dave dialed in my Aprilia Tuono V4 over the course of the OMRRA weekend at PIR. To say the man is a suspension shaman would be an understatement. That David Mamet character in Glengarry Glen Ross is nothing like this guy.... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
First have to thank you. I've learned a lot from you. Sice I had an '10 R6 I always search your site and vids before going to make changes in suspension/geometry. You should set a latin America tour. I'm from Colombia.... See MoreSee Less
5 years ago
None friendlier and willing to help people! Glad Dave is out there for us and not working top secret MotoGP team stuff. Dave is the ultimate suspension guru!... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Just bought the iPhone app. Great tool can't wait to take notes and apply what I've learned! Just wish Dave was on the east coast more for track days!... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Amazing info making riders better and Daves a top guy.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
5 class championships and 50 plus podiums in 5 different classes, none of which would have been possible without the help of Dave Moss.... he's truly amazing.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Best person Ive met in the motorcycle industry. Extremely helpful, knowledgeable and an all around great guy!... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
If there's a guy that I trust with advice its Dave.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Did my set up back several years ago on both my 04 600RR and the 07 600RR amazing job!!! Now it's time to get my new 09 ZX10R dialed in!!!... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Set up my RC51 years ago at Thunderhill. Made a night and day difference. Very accomodating and takes the time to hear you out to understand your suspension goals in an effort to set you up for success. Can't wait to have him set up my current bike! Now, if only I knew when he was going to be close by.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Thanks for your work setting up my BMW S1000RR this weekend at Laguna Seca Dave! I can't tell you how much it helped!... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Breaks it down simple, easy to understand. Gives enough detail to be relevant to each topic. Always concerned with any questions that come up. Helps riders of all levels to adjust and become more in control of what they do on their motorcycles.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
I feel like I got a totally new bike today thanks to Dave! I really appreciated his time, knowledge and ability to talk to me in a manner that I can understand (realize I don't know much about suspension set up - BUT that changed to knowing a lot more today). My bike rides and responds as it never had before. Thanks Dave!... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
A fair dinkum suspension Guru and Master of all things Motorcycle. Happily sharing a wealth of knowledge, which in turn minimises time spent in the long drawn out process of trial and error.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
YouTube is all I have of getting his knowledge to use on my bike and set it up for my weight. and even through that, I can say Dave Moss is nothing short of a genius.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Hands down the ultimate suspension Guru. From tuning to teaching to riding it, Dave is the man to go to. Very easy to talk to and incredibly knowledgeable and helpful. My track times improved greatly as well as my connection to my bike.... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Through Dave's live sessions at track and study of videos, I have fixed my first suspension/tyre issue! Very rewarding!... See MoreSee Less
6 years ago
Dave is a great source of information, on the web, at the track, very knowledgeable and always willing to help.... See MoreSee Less