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Navigating A 90˚ On Camber Corner

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Navigating A 90˚ On Camber Corner

Almost every track has an on-camber, low gear, 90-ish degree […]

Curbeater suspension preheating equipment

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Curbeater suspension preheating equipment

Curbeater Test, Thunderhill Raceway Park: September 16^th, 2018

Weather: 82F ambient […]

Tire Testing: Bridgestone R11

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Tire Testing: Bridgestone R11

Dave flogged the new Bridgestone R11 all day long, to […]

Yamaha R6 Data Dump 2006-15

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Yamaha R6 Data Dump 2006-15

Dave goes through the 2006-2015 Yamaha R6 from nose to […]

Test Ride: Panigale V4 Base Model

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Test Ride: Panigale V4 Base Model

A kind gentleman allowed Dave to test ride his new […]

3 Braking Techniques for the Road

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3 Braking Techniques for the Road

Crashing is the worst way to slow down your motorcycle. […]

AFM Round 6, Sonoma Raceway, September 1st and 2nd 2018

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AFM Round 6, Sonoma Raceway, September 1st and 2nd 2018

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2 Clicks Out: Sewing Machines

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2 Clicks Out: Sewing Machines

Never before have we had such capable, refined budget motorcycles; […]

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dave Moss

Through his online resources and in person classes held worldwide, Dave tries to save a life every day in the motorcycle community. Those attending are asked to “Pa.y It Forward” to riding friends to give greater reach to Dave’s mission

Amazing! He’s a great coach, straight forward and honest. Even though my time with him was short, not one second of the whole hour was wasted. He gauges where you are skill wise and adjusts as needed. Got my list to work on. The videos are great!!! He is truly dedicated to helping riders in this industry.

Miyouko Wu

Thanks for showing me the process of how to learn; having a ‘map’ of how to approach it. I understand it is a process and a dynamic one over time and changing conditions but now feel I have a better understanding of what/how and why each setting should be approached. I like starting with one thing and changing it 25% and then another +25%, making notes and arriving at too much one way or the other and then working back and forth in smaller increments to find the right setting. As my understanding grows and the fear of unknown goes away with experience I am now confident I will soon have a setup that both works and gets the bike geometry with me on it to work in balance. Today’s ride after two days worth of stop/settings change/start/stop was fantastic, best the bike has ever felt.

Scott Peterson

Dave set up my bike the improvement is unbelievable, I’d recommend anyone who rides get it set up by dave.

Damien Bannon

Daniel Kupfer, Mexico City, Mexico

Hello Dave!

I did the adjustments and the bike feels MUCH better!!

So, in the front. I'm at 4 in in preload instead of 10 (stock 5) that left me with 35mm of SAG:
- 4 out rebound

- 5 out compression

For more front feel I will be trying in a progressive way 4-3-2-1 with the rebound setting.

In the rear I'm at min preload and 3 out compression which gives me 40mm of SAG.

Thank you very much Dave! Please send the PayPal invoice.

Stefan Heindl, Bavaria, Germany

Hello Dave, how are you ?

My name is Stefan. I am 37 years old and I live in Germany (Bavaria).

I have been riding a Suzuki Gsxr 1000 K6 for almost 12 years now and in the past 3 years I started to learn more about suspension setup and settings and tyre wear.

I have experimented with different setups to see how it works and to get a better feeling for my bike. I watched some Youtube Videos from Dave Moss as well to learn more about it !

This year I have replaced both tyres with a Conti Sport Attack 3 which is a really great street tyre. After riding a couple of kilometres I could see that something was strange with my rear tyre wear.

It seemed to be too rough, too much rubber balls and later cracks on the surface and it looked for me like a hot or cold tear (I thought first).

So I tried different pressure- and shock setups but nothing really worked !! I only ride on the street and I have never had the problem before with different street tyres!

I don´t really have the experience to decide what caused this wear. That´s the reason why I got in contact with Dave. I told him about my problem and sent him a few pictures of my tyre wear!

Anyway, Dave replied very quickly and told me that this wear is caused by a wrong geometry where the surface of the tyre is overheating because I changed my tyre size from standard 190/50 to 190/55.

It was really interesting for me because I rode different tyres before with size 190/55 and I couldn`t see that problem on the rear tyre but the compound of the Sport Attack 3 showed me that!

So on my bike it’s a bit difficult to change shock preload (not enough space to work on it) so I changed back to standard tyre size 190/50!

After a few hundreds of kilometres and lots of throttle outside corners the tyre wear looked great in my opinion and Dave also confirmed me that!!

So after all, Dave did an awesome job and gave me such amazing and useful information, I couldn`t believe that only a slightly bigger tyre could cause a wrong geometry and a poor wear!

And without Dave`s help, surely I would have experimented into the wrong direction!

Thanks a lot Dave for your support and your professional help!!

Stefan :)

Arnold Praesent, Brno, Czech Republic

Dave Moss – Remote Suspension Tuning Summary in Austria/EU

and 19.09.2018 – Brno Curcuit Czech Republic

Arnold from Austria, Bike: 2017 Aprilia Tuono V4 RR

Track: Brno - CZ (MotoGP Track):

My expectations:

Getting help in finding good suspension setting for my bike and riding style
Improving the handling of the bike / getting more confidence in riding
Tire wear / duration of the tire was a big issue as well
Maybe some hints, tips and tricks about setting up the suspension

About the setup of the remote tuning:

I got in contact with Dave via email and asked for a remote tuning session for my Aprilia. I got within a couple of hours a feedback (mind the time shift of 9 hours to my local time). It was very uncomplicated to arrange the tuning, no up front payments needed – the topic was in focus not financials. Dave really took time to understand what I need and I expect from the tuning.

All current settings I have sent to Dave in front of the track day at Automotodrom Brno in Czech Republic with some pictures of the tire from my last track day at Slovakia Circuit in Slovakia.

He advised a set of adjustments I should try out and give feedback – that was a good way to overcome the time shift, because morning in US was already afternoon in EU, so most of the training sessions were already done.

After running all the settings I have sent to Dave for each setting my personal feedback and pictures of the tires via WhatsApp.

WhatsApp is the preferred way because phone calls are not that easy to do in such a noisy environment like sitting in the pit with a lot of track action ongoing. He proposed some adjustments to my favorite settings to improve tire wear and get me confident in the suspension.

For example:

being hard on gas my backhand was pumping especially at the uphill section at Brno before the start/finish line chicane.
after tighten/slowing up the rebound of the shock step by step it got better each time until it was perfect for me – not suffering in other sections.
after the tuning the tire wear pattern looked very good.

Front: after tuning

Back: after tuning

What did I learn?:

Don’t bet too much on the opinion of your pit colleagues because
- They may have a different bike
- The suspension may be different
- They are using different tires
- They may have a different weight as you have
- Different riding style and skills

What is good for them does not mean its good for you as well!

Note everything you know, all settings, temperatures, measurements you are doing, more information leads to better understanding what’s ongoing and how to treat it. Just having a feeling and turning screws wild leads to nothing good.
Make also huge adjustment changes to really feel what’s the effect on it, getting better, getting worse – note directly after you hop off the bike what your thoughts are, the first impression is gone after a couple of minutes if you do not write it down.
Be careful with setting up the suspension, take time for it, adjust according the plan, no guessing and adjustments on feelings and believes, stay on the plan what you make before for not losing track and focus what you want to achieve.
Take the suspension as soft as possible which fits to your riding style – improvements in lap time needs to have some slight adjustments as well, also ambient and track temperatures are effecting suspension much more than expected.

Output what you can get from the remote tuning.

I gained great understanding of how to set up the suspension – knowledge transfer – Dave is very kind to share. All asked questions are answered sufficiently and as questions can be random verses well organized.
Also try “out of scope looking” settings – trust the great experience of Dave, maybe that’s a setting which fits you better than you expect – at least you learn a lot about your individual suspension and how it performs.
You will find well tuned suspension settings for your riding style and skills which you can gain trust in because you have a better understanding.
The tire wear was improving significantly in two directions – the wear pattern was improving much in the front and back (means grip) as well as the duration/life of the tire improved a lot (abrasion). Even when getting faster on the track the tire lasts longer. Just to illustrate what that means. Before the adjustments, a fresh – brand new tire was gone to 1/3 after 3 Stints (20min). After the tuning the tire looks pretty much new after 3 training sessions and a race at the end – I’m sure this tire lasts for at least 3-4 days now which is an increase of about 250-300% in duration with same or faster lap times!
At last a base setting you can start working on for each individual track you are at – with asking a lot of questions I gained a know-how of what to do next track day if something feels strange – only small adjustments are needed.

I can highly recommend having a session with Dave – best would be face to face but the remote tuning session worked better than my expectations. That’s because of the huge experience Dave has in this area.

As much information you can give to Dave, he can advise how to get you and the tires to be better. Making pictures, sending the settings you have done with the comment how it felt to you… what is getting better, what is getting worse etc…

One thing which could be improved is that Dave is asking more questions about the feeling of the bike – maybe that was not needed due to the notes I have written down.

Many thanks!

Arnold

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